2024 TEAM RUMORS

hunty
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12/15/2023 11:13am Edited Date/Time 12/15/2023 12:36pm
 

 

Ronan is moving on....

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dolface
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12/15/2023 11:34am
hunty wrote:
    Ronan is moving on....
 

 

Ronan is moving on....

So ya don't have to click... 

 

 

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bizutch
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12/15/2023 12:20pm Edited Date/Time 12/15/2023 12:37pm

I have an incredibly bipolar, delusional & maliciously unreliable quasi-source:

Mondaker

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tullie
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12/15/2023 12:29pm
bizutch wrote:
I have an incredibly bipolar, delusional & maliciously unreliable quasi-source:

I have an incredibly bipolar, delusional & maliciously unreliable quasi-source:

Mondaker

This is rumors, noone likes solid sources 

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bizutch
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12/15/2023 12:38pm
bizutch wrote:
I have an incredibly bipolar, delusional & maliciously unreliable quasi-source:

I have an incredibly bipolar, delusional & maliciously unreliable quasi-source:

Mondaker

tullie wrote:

This is rumors, noone likes solid sources 

Fixed it

 

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brash
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12/15/2023 1:29pm

Re Brosnan: I don't know his situation, but here is my hypothesis.

He's newly married, has a hobby farm with horses and cool shit and it's Summer Holidays here in Aus (Everyone stops working for a month lol) It's 35 degrees every day, the suns out, the beach is ready and the beers are cold!

Last thing I'd want to do now is head on a 24 hour flight back to Europe on the covid tin can, shiver my balls off in some French ski village away from your loved ones when he could be eating Prawns and smashing beers on the back deck!

It's bikes, he's good at it. Hop back on the DH bike closer to the season.

now excuse me while I crack a beer, it's too hot!

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12/15/2023 1:56pm
brash wrote:
Re Brosnan: I don't know his situation, but here is my hypothesis. He's newly married, has a hobby farm with horses and cool shit and it's...

Re Brosnan: I don't know his situation, but here is my hypothesis.

He's newly married, has a hobby farm with horses and cool shit and it's Summer Holidays here in Aus (Everyone stops working for a month lol) It's 35 degrees every day, the suns out, the beach is ready and the beers are cold!

Last thing I'd want to do now is head on a 24 hour flight back to Europe on the covid tin can, shiver my balls off in some French ski village away from your loved ones when he could be eating Prawns and smashing beers on the back deck!

It's bikes, he's good at it. Hop back on the DH bike closer to the season.

now excuse me while I crack a beer, it's too hot!

Seems like Minnar was on a similar plan for years. Worked for him. 

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GeorgJung
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12/15/2023 2:22pm
manny.bike wrote:

Please not!! No one performed under monrdraker in the last year since dany and laurie, even with the new bike this year no improvements.

Maxipedia wrote:
I am not getting this hate, especially from us, who are obviously outside the racing field. It is impossible to judge what a good bike is...

I am not getting this hate, especially from us, who are obviously outside the racing field. It is impossible to judge what a good bike is and what not and especially what a good bike COULD be. How could we, with pretty much no inside knowledge, know that? Just by sheer assumption? Assumptions without solid information are most of the times logical errors. Having success takes a whole lot of ingredients, especially in something like DH racing. I guess sometimes being in the zone and fully motivated could mean more than having a ”good” bike, whatever that may be. Related to Mondraker, I think I saw that positive energy in Jacob Dickson, who was obviously pumped on riding, after being out at the beginning of the season. In order to be fair, we would need the opinion of the riders on the team and it's very little likely to get that, as most of them are diplomatic and try to keep good connections in the industry. And even then it's a question of what the measuring stick is. It's not like everybody has ridden all the bikes on the circuit and know how they ride with their specific tune to them. So there are a lot of variables and saying ”X bike is good and Y bike is bad, because of results” is skin deep, with all due respect.

Mx

Agree, I don't think  bikes play that big of a role. I mean, frames are not rocket science and, in general, geometries are pretty similar all...

Agree, I don't think  bikes play that big of a role. I mean, frames are not rocket science and, in general, geometries are pretty similar all across the World Cup. In fact, I would go as far as to say that, if frames were covered during tests, 99% of reviewers wouldn't be able to tell brands apart.

Mondraker haven't scored that much cuz their riders aren't Top 10, as simple as that.

so frames are not rocket science because it is only about geometry- is that about right? What about kinematics or how components work with the frame such as suspension.

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danielteleman
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12/15/2023 2:32pm

Like Trummer on YT?

I'm looking at his resume on Roots right nowHis peak seems to happened in 2019, with three straight top 10. Between 2021 and 2022, when he goes to Mondraker I don't see much of a change, he's hoovering between 10/20 as per usual. 2023 is a different story since he had a very complicated spinal surgery at the start of the season.

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danielteleman
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12/15/2023 2:37pm
Maxipedia wrote:
I am not getting this hate, especially from us, who are obviously outside the racing field. It is impossible to judge what a good bike is...

I am not getting this hate, especially from us, who are obviously outside the racing field. It is impossible to judge what a good bike is and what not and especially what a good bike COULD be. How could we, with pretty much no inside knowledge, know that? Just by sheer assumption? Assumptions without solid information are most of the times logical errors. Having success takes a whole lot of ingredients, especially in something like DH racing. I guess sometimes being in the zone and fully motivated could mean more than having a ”good” bike, whatever that may be. Related to Mondraker, I think I saw that positive energy in Jacob Dickson, who was obviously pumped on riding, after being out at the beginning of the season. In order to be fair, we would need the opinion of the riders on the team and it's very little likely to get that, as most of them are diplomatic and try to keep good connections in the industry. And even then it's a question of what the measuring stick is. It's not like everybody has ridden all the bikes on the circuit and know how they ride with their specific tune to them. So there are a lot of variables and saying ”X bike is good and Y bike is bad, because of results” is skin deep, with all due respect.

Mx

Agree, I don't think  bikes play that big of a role. I mean, frames are not rocket science and, in general, geometries are pretty similar all...

Agree, I don't think  bikes play that big of a role. I mean, frames are not rocket science and, in general, geometries are pretty similar all across the World Cup. In fact, I would go as far as to say that, if frames were covered during tests, 99% of reviewers wouldn't be able to tell brands apart.

Mondraker haven't scored that much cuz their riders aren't Top 10, as simple as that.

GeorgJung wrote:
so frames are not rocket science because it is only about geometry- is that about right? What about kinematics or how components work with the frame...

so frames are not rocket science because it is only about geometry- is that about right? What about kinematics or how components work with the frame such as suspension.

It's still not rocket science, no matter how much we love to think it is- and I need about them as much as anyone else. Save for extreme choices like Unno most frames are pretty similar in geometry, and most of the are prototypes anyway with a wide range of adjustment. You could go to a different team and still have the same bike as last year, geometry wise...

Could Brook jump a few spots on the board with a different bike? Maybe, but he's no making podiums, no matter the bike, be it a V10 or a Demo

 

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Puneta
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12/15/2023 3:09pm
Agree, I don't think  bikes play that big of a role. I mean, frames are not rocket science and, in general, geometries are pretty similar all...

Agree, I don't think  bikes play that big of a role. I mean, frames are not rocket science and, in general, geometries are pretty similar all across the World Cup. In fact, I would go as far as to say that, if frames were covered during tests, 99% of reviewers wouldn't be able to tell brands apart.

Mondraker haven't scored that much cuz their riders aren't Top 10, as simple as that.

GeorgJung wrote:
so frames are not rocket science because it is only about geometry- is that about right? What about kinematics or how components work with the frame...

so frames are not rocket science because it is only about geometry- is that about right? What about kinematics or how components work with the frame such as suspension.

It's still not rocket science, no matter how much we love to think it is- and I need about them as much as anyone else. Save...

It's still not rocket science, no matter how much we love to think it is- and I need about them as much as anyone else. Save for extreme choices like Unno most frames are pretty similar in geometry, and most of the are prototypes anyway with a wide range of adjustment. You could go to a different team and still have the same bike as last year, geometry wise...

Could Brook jump a few spots on the board with a different bike? Maybe, but he's no making podiums, no matter the bike, be it a V10 or a Demo

 

Ha! No two bikes are the same, even if both have similar geometry. Yeah, it may not be literal rocket science, but there is definitely a lot of science (engineering) that goes into developing a bike. In the PB podcast Brook said he felt great on the bike but the limits of the bike were not competitive with other bikes in the DH WC races. He continues, he felt super sketchy when surpassing the limits of the bike in trying to keep up with other racers. That says a lot! If Brook gets into a new frame that he feels comfortable pushing the limits on, he will start being a consistent name in the finals. Hopefully, he gets what he needs to perform in 2024 regardless if its Mondraker or not.

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Conkey
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12/15/2023 3:14pm
bizutch wrote:
I have an incredibly bipolar, delusional & maliciously unreliable quasi-source:

I have an incredibly bipolar, delusional & maliciously unreliable quasi-source:

Mondaker

Maliciously unreliable.  Fascinating. 👍👍

DubC
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12/15/2023 3:30pm

Everybody: "It's the rider, not the bike" 

Also everybody: "Rider X's results sucked when they were on brand X because that bike sucked"

Back to team rumors: A particular 2023 Spanish team rider discussed in recent posts, may be spending a lot more time in the land of freedumb. Specifically, in an area (regionally) known for it's extra large heaping portion of freedumb (which was still not enough for a certain rider because other states have way morerer freedumb). 

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piggy
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12/15/2023 3:46pm

I’m surprised to see a guy leave a team of his own accord - which is how Ronan has presented this. The upside is that there are still teams making strong offers to riders out there apparently. 

12/15/2023 4:47pm

One team flying under the radar with an open spot(s) is Rockshox - Trek. With Vali going to YT it’s either find a rider or two or fold the team. Can’t see them carrying on with just Tegan Cruz. Could see them going for Dak if he was leaving Intense. Plan B Ollie Davis and Ethan Craik? 

 

owl-x
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12/15/2023 4:48pm
brash wrote:
Re Brosnan: I don't know his situation, but here is my hypothesis. He's newly married, has a hobby farm with horses and cool shit and it's...

Re Brosnan: I don't know his situation, but here is my hypothesis.

He's newly married, has a hobby farm with horses and cool shit and it's Summer Holidays here in Aus (Everyone stops working for a month lol) It's 35 degrees every day, the suns out, the beach is ready and the beers are cold!

Last thing I'd want to do now is head on a 24 hour flight back to Europe on the covid tin can, shiver my balls off in some French ski village away from your loved ones when he could be eating Prawns and smashing beers on the back deck!

It's bikes, he's good at it. Hop back on the DH bike closer to the season.

now excuse me while I crack a beer, it's too hot!

dang dude my eyes glazed over reading this...i'm feeling it!

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12/15/2023 5:02pm
BGoldstone wrote:
One team flying under the radar with an open spot(s) is Rockshox - Trek. With Vali going to YT it’s either find a rider or two...

One team flying under the radar with an open spot(s) is Rockshox - Trek. With Vali going to YT it’s either find a rider or two or fold the team. Can’t see them carrying on with just Tegan Cruz. Could see them going for Dak if he was leaving Intense. Plan B Ollie Davis and Ethan Craik? 

 

Doubt we'll see any big name brought into that SRAM/Trek team unless Trek kicks in more money. ... The SRAM/Rockshox money will follow Vali to YT and the extra (if any) will probably go to Minnaar on Norco. 

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12/15/2023 6:48pm
piggy wrote:
I’m surprised to see a guy leave a team of his own accord - which is how Ronan has presented this. The upside is that there...

I’m surprised to see a guy leave a team of his own accord - which is how Ronan has presented this. The upside is that there are still teams making strong offers to riders out there apparently. 

Will there even be a nukeproof team next year?

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thetruth
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12/15/2023 7:29pm

Aaron Gwins program will be on specialized or a French frame moving forward..... 

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12/15/2023 7:40pm
BGoldstone wrote:
One team flying under the radar with an open spot(s) is Rockshox - Trek. With Vali going to YT it’s either find a rider or two...

One team flying under the radar with an open spot(s) is Rockshox - Trek. With Vali going to YT it’s either find a rider or two or fold the team. Can’t see them carrying on with just Tegan Cruz. Could see them going for Dak if he was leaving Intense. Plan B Ollie Davis and Ethan Craik? 

 

Doubt we'll see any big name brought into that SRAM/Trek team unless Trek kicks in more money. ... The SRAM/Rockshox money will follow Vali to YT...

Doubt we'll see any big name brought into that SRAM/Trek team unless Trek kicks in more money. ... The SRAM/Rockshox money will follow Vali to YT and the extra (if any) will probably go to Minnaar on Norco. 

Well then the team will fold. It’s SRAM’s program so if they leave there isn’t much of a team left.

12/15/2023 7:43pm
piggy wrote:
I’m surprised to see a guy leave a team of his own accord - which is how Ronan has presented this. The upside is that there...

I’m surprised to see a guy leave a team of his own accord - which is how Ronan has presented this. The upside is that there are still teams making strong offers to riders out there apparently. 

mtbman99 wrote:

Will there even be a nukeproof team next year?

Ronan was on Conti/Nukeproof so the team could continue with a different bike sponsor. Sam Hill was Nukeproof Factory so would be more effected.

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Karabuka
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12/16/2023 1:40am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2023 2:00am

 We've all knew it was coming, Jess Blewitt has also posted official goodbye to GTFR

 
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nicompr
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12/16/2023 2:40am
thetruth wrote:

Aaron Gwins program will be on specialized or a French frame moving forward..... 

There's not much big MTB french brand nowadays. In fact, there's only Lapierre and they don't make a DH frame and won't be for quite some time. Maybe you're refering of Commencal...which is an andorran brand

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RedBaron82
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12/16/2023 2:49am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2023 2:50am

IMG 3129

Dim Tordo's comment under Thomas Lemoine's Canyon Farewell instagram post. Maybe he is off Canyon as well?

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casey79
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12/16/2023 3:03am

IMG 4910 0

 

Troy giving some solid hints that this is the last year on Canyon and he is moving on.

 

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12/16/2023 3:15am
casey79 wrote:
  Troy giving some solid hints that this is the last year on Canyon and he is moving on.  

IMG 4910 0

 

Troy giving some solid hints that this is the last year on Canyon and he is moving on.

 

Its a farwell video from lemoine not brosnan...

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casey79
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12/16/2023 3:18am
casey79 wrote:
  Troy giving some solid hints that this is the last year on Canyon and he is moving on.  

IMG 4910 0

 

Troy giving some solid hints that this is the last year on Canyon and he is moving on.

 

fartsack wrote:
Its a farwell video from lemoine not brosnan...

Its a farwell video from lemoine not brosnan...

Yeah think you’re right watching it a second time. 

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Mr.Nally
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12/16/2023 5:51am
thetruth wrote:

Aaron Gwins program will be on specialized or a French frame moving forward..... 

nicompr wrote:
There's not much big MTB french brand nowadays. In fact, there's only Lapierre and they don't make a DH frame and won't be for quite some...

There's not much big MTB french brand nowadays. In fact, there's only Lapierre and they don't make a DH frame and won't be for quite some time. Maybe you're refering of Commencal...which is an andorran brand

Windrock bikepark becomes a Commencal park and Gwin runs a Supreme

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12/16/2023 9:26am

Luck of the Irish replaced by a British bulldog riding a land mass of good times 

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