They already have Dom Platt, Charlie, Andy, Gee and Rach. I don’t see Gee and Rach doing a full season so there might be a place for a new rider. Davis had some good results last season, with a strong team like Atherton behind him he can achieve his true potential.
Forum member was saying Brook didn't get well with the Mondraker Proto. That's not the story Rootsandrain tells us. Bulldogs prime year was 2018( two podiums...
Forum member was saying Brook didn't get well with the Mondraker Proto. That's not the story Rootsandrain tells us. Bulldogs prime year was 2018( two podiums and another couple of Top10s). 2019 was good too, just not that brilliant, after that it came a big dip to the 30/40 places and that's the level he's been at for the last years.
If you want to point fingers at Mondraker you have to do it since 2020.
Forum member was saying Brook didn't get well with the Mondraker Proto. That's not the story Rootsandrain tells us. Bulldogs prime year was 2018( two podiums...
Forum member was saying Brook didn't get well with the Mondraker Proto. That's not the story Rootsandrain tells us. Bulldogs prime year was 2018( two podiums and another couple of Top10s). 2019 was good too, just not that brilliant, after that it came a big dip to the 30/40 places and that's the level he's been at for the last years.
If you want to point fingers at Mondraker you have to do it since 2020.
Don't really know, started following DH a couple of years ago. I was responding to a few forum members worried about Dak signing for Mondraker bikes cuz Brook wasn't happy about the proto.
Since Bulldog's dip in performance coincided with an horrific back injury there's a good chance physical and psychological factors played a big part in his downgraded performance - and perhaps his troubles with the bike's design were just an externalisation of said problems.
DH is a high risk sport, riders are threading a very fine line between speed and danger, therefore confidence plays a big role in performance. We have seen it numerous times, a podium can propel an athlete to a run of several top results, at the same time an injury can destroy the confidence and trigger a regress in performance.
At the very limit of grip, where top DH riders battle for that extra tenths that decide the victory, things get fuzzy. The colossal speed of inputs is so high that most of the adjustments are done on the subconscious. So, when a rider is setting up his bike/ suspensions there's is also, besides the real physical attributes of chassis/suspension dynamics vs terrain, a psychological aspect at play...
Following this line of reasoning is obvius it'd be better for Dak, in terms of confidence, to keep riding the Intense, but, listening to him these two last years , it seems he has reached a great level of maturity and, if he ends riding for Mondraker, I believe he would adjust quite well to the change of bikes.
Don't really know, started following DH a couple of years ago. I was responding to a few forum members worried about Dak signing for Mondraker bikes...
Don't really know, started following DH a couple of years ago. I was responding to a few forum members worried about Dak signing for Mondraker bikes cuz Brook wasn't happy about the proto.
Since Bulldog's dip in performance coincided with an horrific back injury there's a good chance physical and psychological factors played a big part in his downgraded performance - and perhaps his troubles with the bike's design were just an externalisation of said problems.
DH is a high risk sport, riders are threading a very fine line between speed and danger, therefore confidence plays a big role in performance. We have seen it numerous times, a podium can propel an athlete to a run of several top results, at the same time an injury can destroy the confidence and trigger a regress in performance.
At the very limit of grip, where top DH riders battle for that extra tenths that decide the victory, things get fuzzy. The colossal speed of inputs is so high that most of the adjustments are done on the subconscious. So, when a rider is setting up his bike/ suspensions there's is also, besides the real physical attributes of chassis/suspension dynamics vs terrain, a psychological aspect at play...
Following this line of reasoning is obvius it'd be better for Dak, in terms of confidence, to keep riding the Intense, but, listening to him these two last years , it seems he has reached a great level of maturity and, if he ends riding for Mondraker, I believe he would adjust quite well to the change of bikes.
(Searches Internet for a movie quote about kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin)
If Dak winds up on Mondraker, I have the same concerned sentiment of others about the bike not getting along with riders. But to be clear...
If Dak winds up on Mondraker, I have the same concerned sentiment of others about the bike not getting along with riders. But to be clear, BullDog was on a full proto & I assume the team will be on custom length frames but OEM geometry to start the season & they'll give them all varying rear linkages to try.
And for the reason BullDog didn't get along with the proto, I'm not fan of announcing Dak to their team if/when that hashes out. Would rather he land on a proven design. I can only assume that whoever he elects to run with, he'll place a lot of need on being based at a European test track or ten for the majority of his season. He's sounded like the thing that would make him happy is to just be at the top of a World Cup track from day 1 of testing and throughout season. Whatever team gets him there I assume he'll get the bike sorted on it.
I know we've got some brilliant minds on here, but I've got pals on the WC circuit who are all chasing the 2 very distinct items. Anti-squat & anti-rise (one of which Neko referred to in his video).
Biggest thing these designers are battling is the shelf/stair/loading dock hits the WC tracks dish out.
The design guys all know which frames cause issues for racers at speed in the steeps. The whole "Bulldog is the issue" thing is just an awful take. Zero fan boi bias on my part. 100% issues being openly discussed about the proto. Someone who knows that link well can chime in, but was told anti-squat is a big issue on it.
Yep.
I know we've got some brilliant minds on here, but I've got pals on the WC circuit who are all chasing the 2 very distinct...
Yep.
I know we've got some brilliant minds on here, but I've got pals on the WC circuit who are all chasing the 2 very distinct items. Anti-squat & anti-rise (one of which Neko referred to in his video).
Biggest thing these designers are battling is the shelf/stair/loading dock hits the WC tracks dish out.
The design guys all know which frames cause issues for racers at speed in the steeps. The whole "Bulldog is the issue" thing is just an awful take. Zero fan boi bias on my part. 100% issues being openly discussed about the proto. Someone who knows that link well can chime in, but was told anti-squat is a big issue on it.
But it is the Buldog issue. After the injury he changed, understandably. From top 20 guy to not qualified, its pretty sure its mostly riders fault.(injury, mindset, preparation...)
they have good suspensions (fox), good tires (maxxis), good geometry (proto bike has adjustment), lots of team support and staff. They have a race engineer and I’m sure they can modify the bike if needed.
if the bikes antisquat is slightly off that is not going to ruin someone’s career.
The new mondraker team is going to be fine.
they have good suspensions (fox), good tires (maxxis), good geometry (proto bike has adjustment), lots of team...
The new mondraker team is going to be fine.
they have good suspensions (fox), good tires (maxxis), good geometry (proto bike has adjustment), lots of team support and staff. They have a race engineer and I’m sure they can modify the bike if needed.
if the bikes antisquat is slightly off that is not going to ruin someone’s career.
True.
Got defensive over people flat out blaming BullDog only when there are known factors at play.
The new mondraker team is going to be fine.
they have good suspensions (fox), good tires (maxxis), good geometry (proto bike has adjustment), lots of team...
The new mondraker team is going to be fine.
they have good suspensions (fox), good tires (maxxis), good geometry (proto bike has adjustment), lots of team support and staff. They have a race engineer and I’m sure they can modify the bike if needed.
if the bikes antisquat is slightly off that is not going to ruin someone’s career.
"The loan..., comes from the manufacturer's majority shareholder, South Korean clothing company Youngone Corporation, and will be paid in instalments at a 4.6% interest rate."
Scott is expected to pay this loan back at the end of this year (27 Dec 2024, to be precise).
More bike industry news:
[url=https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/scott-receives-pound137m-loan-as-industry-overstocking-crisis-bites]Scott receives £137m loan as industry overstocking crisis bites[/url]
"The loan..., comes from the manufacturer's majority shareholder, South Korean clothing...
"The loan..., comes from the manufacturer's majority shareholder, South Korean clothing company Youngone Corporation, and will be paid in instalments at a 4.6% interest rate."
Scott is expected to pay this loan back at the end of this year (27 Dec 2024, to be precise).
If you don’t trust the bike and already “got away with” a serious injury like brook’s that’s not really a recipe for success. Hope he finds a ride cause fans come to the races to see him. That would be enough if the industry wasn’t in such a bad place.
With the MS Intense Team lineup announced, that puts Gwin on Yeti or Trek.
Since he lived with the Yeti folks in Colorado during his come uppance, I'm voting Yeti.
Deep inside, I want to be stunned by a full factory Trek Gwinner doing stupid crazy laps with Loris and Reeco.
Now that I typed that out, it's gotta be A.A. Ron & Rico Rudiculous on Team Yeet-E.
With the MS Intense Team lineup announced, that puts Gwin on Yeti or Trek.
Since he lived with the Yeti folks in Colorado during his come...
With the MS Intense Team lineup announced, that puts Gwin on Yeti or Trek.
Since he lived with the Yeti folks in Colorado during his come uppance, I'm voting Yeti.
Deep inside, I want to be stunned by a full factory Trek Gwinner doing stupid crazy laps with Loris and Reeco.
Now that I typed that out, it's gotta be A.A. Ron & Rico Rudiculous on Team Yeet-E.
Hmm, I'd think Trek more likely to fill out a rental fleet at Windrock as part of the deal.
With the MS Intense Team lineup announced, that puts Gwin on Yeti or Trek.
Since he lived with the Yeti folks in Colorado during his come...
With the MS Intense Team lineup announced, that puts Gwin on Yeti or Trek.
Since he lived with the Yeti folks in Colorado during his come uppance, I'm voting Yeti.
Deep inside, I want to be stunned by a full factory Trek Gwinner doing stupid crazy laps with Loris and Reeco.
Now that I typed that out, it's gotta be A.A. Ron & Rico Rudiculous on Team Yeet-E.
I thought he lived at Tomac’s house when he was in Colorado?
What if Gwin has his own team again? With Dak and Seth as riders.
Intense frames, with some other major/title sponsor (possibly outside of MTB?), along with all the component sponsorship like he has done in the past.
Gwin beats to his own drum and his done well financially (it seems) doing his own deal rather than answering to an established team, etc. He also seems to enjoy working with smaller brands to do that development work and get things exactly the way he wants.
Neko said it well in his podcast, good riders are going cheap in this market right now. So why would Trek or someone of that caliber be willing to pay what Gwin can/has earned when there are tons of other proven riders that NEED a ride and will go for cheap? (In a previous podcast with AG he told Disco/WB that they couldn't afford to pay him to commentate)
Gwin hasnt been the most consistent over the years due to injury as well. Granted, we all want to see him back on the top.. but its a big risk considering the amount of time he has been outside the tape. (see previous comment about proven riders needing a ride)
Dunno.. food for thought. We will find out soon enough I suppose.
Source? Would be really cool if he would join the team.
If the bike on the right is Roanan's bike, he probably isn't riding for Mondraker since they don't run Conti tyres or Dt wheels.
They already have Dom Platt, Charlie, Andy, Gee and Rach. I don’t see Gee and Rach doing a full season so there might be a place for a new rider. Davis had some good results last season, with a strong team like Atherton behind him he can achieve his true potential.
From a mates mum who knows the friend of the uncle that served coffee to ollie back in march.
NO ONE GIVES OUT SOURCES.
OD on Atherton would be awesome but He was riding a brand new commencal frame December. Source - my eyeballs 👀
Danny on a new bike looks like Nukeproof
Wasn’t the prototype designed by Brooks mechanic?
Don't really know, started following DH a couple of years ago. I was responding to a few forum members worried about Dak signing for Mondraker bikes cuz Brook wasn't happy about the proto.
Since Bulldog's dip in performance coincided with an horrific back injury there's a good chance physical and psychological factors played a big part in his downgraded performance - and perhaps his troubles with the bike's design were just an externalisation of said problems.
DH is a high risk sport, riders are threading a very fine line between speed and danger, therefore confidence plays a big role in performance. We have seen it numerous times, a podium can propel an athlete to a run of several top results, at the same time an injury can destroy the confidence and trigger a regress in performance.
At the very limit of grip, where top DH riders battle for that extra tenths that decide the victory, things get fuzzy. The colossal speed of inputs is so high that most of the adjustments are done on the subconscious. So, when a rider is setting up his bike/ suspensions there's is also, besides the real physical attributes of chassis/suspension dynamics vs terrain, a psychological aspect at play...
Following this line of reasoning is obvius it'd be better for Dak, in terms of confidence, to keep riding the Intense, but, listening to him these two last years , it seems he has reached a great level of maturity and, if he ends riding for Mondraker, I believe he would adjust quite well to the change of bikes.
We heard, 15 other times.
(Searches Internet for a movie quote about kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin)
Yep.
I know we've got some brilliant minds on here, but I've got pals on the WC circuit who are all chasing the 2 very distinct items. Anti-squat & anti-rise (one of which Neko referred to in his video).
Biggest thing these designers are battling is the shelf/stair/loading dock hits the WC tracks dish out.
The design guys all know which frames cause issues for racers at speed in the steeps. The whole "Bulldog is the issue" thing is just an awful take. Zero fan boi bias on my part. 100% issues being openly discussed about the proto. Someone who knows that link well can chime in, but was told anti-squat is a big issue on it.
But it is the Buldog issue. After the injury he changed, understandably. From top 20 guy to not qualified, its pretty sure its mostly riders fault.(injury, mindset, preparation...)
The new mondraker team is going to be fine.
they have good suspensions (fox), good tires (maxxis), good geometry (proto bike has adjustment), lots of team support and staff. They have a race engineer and I’m sure they can modify the bike if needed.
if the bikes antisquat is slightly off that is not going to ruin someone’s career.
True.
Got defensive over people flat out blaming BullDog only when there are known factors at play.
TBF, BM was pretty open that he never got on with the bike.
More bike industry news:
Scott receives £137m loan as industry overstocking crisis bites
"The loan..., comes from the manufacturer's majority shareholder, South Korean clothing company Youngone Corporation, and will be paid in instalments at a 4.6% interest rate."
Scott is expected to pay this loan back at the end of this year (27 Dec 2024, to be precise).
There's a thread talking about the financial woes of the industry: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/will-more-companies-be-shutting-dow…
New team incoming, https://www.instagram.com/g2racingproject/
Judging by who they follow it's a French team.
My hunch given the name being G2 is that it's Johan Garcin and Ian Guionnet.
Probably going to see lots of small teams like this the next few season with the industry squeezing marketing budgets?
If you don’t trust the bike and already “got away with” a serious injury like brook’s that’s not really a recipe for success. Hope he finds a ride cause fans come to the races to see him. That would be enough if the industry wasn’t in such a bad place.
Dak representin' his Michigan roots (Quick Stop Bike Shop) would be raddddd, but highly unlikely
Jack Reading officially on Raaw bikes with Hayes brakes and pro taper cockpit….
With the MS Intense Team lineup announced, that puts Gwin on Yeti or Trek.
Since he lived with the Yeti folks in Colorado during his come uppance, I'm voting Yeti.
Deep inside, I want to be stunned by a full factory Trek Gwinner doing stupid crazy laps with Loris and Reeco.
Now that I typed that out, it's gotta be A.A. Ron & Rico Rudiculous on Team Yeet-E.
Asking for a source on a rumors thread?!?!? Please leave this to the people that still don't believe that Dak is going to Mondy.
Those Hayes look rad
Hmm, I'd think Trek more likely to fill out a rental fleet at Windrock as part of the deal.
I thought he lived at Tomac’s house when he was in Colorado?
Gwin is going to end up where he can buy into it and management like at Intense
That’s right away going to cut out certain teams. It’ll be interesting to find out what he can do for running his program
Or is he going to find a team that will just let him race and focus on nothing but racing to finish out his career?
Okay so maybe a reach here but.. maybe not.
What if Gwin has his own team again? With Dak and Seth as riders.
Intense frames, with some other major/title sponsor (possibly outside of MTB?), along with all the component sponsorship like he has done in the past.
Gwin beats to his own drum and his done well financially (it seems) doing his own deal rather than answering to an established team, etc. He also seems to enjoy working with smaller brands to do that development work and get things exactly the way he wants.
Neko said it well in his podcast, good riders are going cheap in this market right now. So why would Trek or someone of that caliber be willing to pay what Gwin can/has earned when there are tons of other proven riders that NEED a ride and will go for cheap? (In a previous podcast with AG he told Disco/WB that they couldn't afford to pay him to commentate)
Gwin hasnt been the most consistent over the years due to injury as well. Granted, we all want to see him back on the top.. but its a big risk considering the amount of time he has been outside the tape. (see previous comment about proven riders needing a ride)
Dunno.. food for thought. We will find out soon enough I suppose.
So I'm pretty sure this is Daks hand.
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