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Onawalk
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12/13/2023 6:32pm
sspomer wrote:

we got our scoop in february of 2023 LOL.

That wasn't  a scoop, that was a peek with pretty much zero details.

We need it ALL.

Do we?

How bout' this

-Inverted (clearly)

-39mm lowers

-147-176mm travel adjustable in 7mm increments, done internally, can only be done at Push's shop

-CNC'd CSU, that are bonded to the upper tubes using loads of good intentions

-HSC, 47 clicks

-LSC 3 clicks

-HSR, 9.7 clicks

-LSR only adjustable internally, requires several model specific tools, like a 10mm socket (you know yours is mssing) easier to send to Push

-Axle made of unobtainium, with a special 7 sided octagonal design said to increase torsional stiffness by 36.89% over previous model, with proprietary axle sizing, to fit readily available 120mm width hubs

-Its built "for life" (requires make, model, year, colour, wheel size, tire pressure specific tune, that is only approved/tuned by Push.  Currently tunes only available for 2008 Specialized Enduro SL Expert when replacing dual crown, and 2023 Banshee Titan when ridden in mullet configuration, with anodized black frame colour)

-Doesnt require HBO, cause its got NBC* engineering

 

Let me know if I missed anything.....

Oh yeah...

$3800USD, 4200 Euro (+VAT), dont bother asking for $CAD, (enough to buy two 38's or Zebs, with money left over for a season park pass)

 

*(Never Bottom Component)

 

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12/14/2023 3:29am
gbcoke wrote:
Does anyone know the price difference between an alloy tube to a carbon one ? Is it really that big of a difference to justify an...

Does anyone know the price difference between an alloy tube to a carbon one ? Is it really that big of a difference to justify an alloy model ?

Camber wrote:
I think the biggest difference will be the machined aluminum lugs rather than the 3D printed titanium lugs. Both in terms of material costs and manufacturing...

I think the biggest difference will be the machined aluminum lugs rather than the 3D printed titanium lugs. Both in terms of material costs and manufacturing times.

Wouldnt machined aluminium lugs with carbon tubes be a better compromise then?

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12/14/2023 5:30am

Depends on what you want to achieve. If it's differentiation between the two lines, then no. Best price performance, probably yes. But machining aluminium lugs might also be a bit of a challenge. Maybe casting (porosity and strength issues) or forging then machining to spec might be a better compromise. 

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12/14/2023 5:45am

I'm no expert at carbon fiber and resins used but corrosion appears on carbon to resin interface if there is aluminum on the other side. Leading to loss of bondage. How would you disconnect entire lug when one of its connections need repair?

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12/14/2023 6:10am

Good point actually. As to how you would disconnect,t he lug would do it for you Smile

I've heard about comments from an aerospace composites engineer saying he would never sit on a 5+ year old carbon bike or ride in an old carbon tubbed supercar (think Mclaren F1, Ferrari F40, etc.) or a racing car of similar construction (old F1 cars, Group C and other Le Mans prototypes, etc.) because of this aluminium corrosion - engines are usually stressed members, bolted to the tub through aluminium inserts, corroding away through time.

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12/14/2023 6:19am Edited Date/Time 12/14/2023 6:22am

There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details on anything to do with these topics on their Instagram, worth a follow for the other nerds: https://www.instagram.com/frameworkbikes/

To answer the alu-carbon question, they made a story about it a while back in a Q&A. At least for them, the alu parts are plated and the bonding agent has glass microspheres that go between the tube and the lug so there isn't any carbon touching aluminum. 

They also did a repair on a proto bike with superlight tubing that had broken and basically just cooked the lug until the glue melted and pulled the tubes out. After a bit of sanding inside to get everything clean they just repeated the same process as usual. 

They have also said that 3D printed titanium is super expensive and not as good structurally as CNC'ed parts, but that explanation went a bit over my head with engineering and physics. Maybe it's not as good as CNC but those Atherton bikes have been hucked and still seem ok. The expense isn't surprising as it seems like Atherton Bikes has some big financial backing and is maybe looking to prove themselves before going cash positive (though I have no information to back that up) and maybe the alu prototype is a way to get there. Also maybe aluminum all around just to make it as freeride/bikepark friendly as possible? Even if an equivalently strong carbon tube isn't a big price difference to an aluminum tube, there's still a perception in the bike industry that aluminum is more robust for bigger riding. 

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12/14/2023 7:18am
Masjo wrote:
There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details...

There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details on anything to do with these topics on their Instagram, worth a follow for the other nerds: https://www.instagram.com/frameworkbikes/

To answer the alu-carbon question, they made a story about it a while back in a Q&A. At least for them, the alu parts are plated and the bonding agent has glass microspheres that go between the tube and the lug so there isn't any carbon touching aluminum. 

They also did a repair on a proto bike with superlight tubing that had broken and basically just cooked the lug until the glue melted and pulled the tubes out. After a bit of sanding inside to get everything clean they just repeated the same process as usual. 

They have also said that 3D printed titanium is super expensive and not as good structurally as CNC'ed parts, but that explanation went a bit over my head with engineering and physics. Maybe it's not as good as CNC but those Atherton bikes have been hucked and still seem ok. The expense isn't surprising as it seems like Atherton Bikes has some big financial backing and is maybe looking to prove themselves before going cash positive (though I have no information to back that up) and maybe the alu prototype is a way to get there. Also maybe aluminum all around just to make it as freeride/bikepark friendly as possible? Even if an equivalently strong carbon tube isn't a big price difference to an aluminum tube, there's still a perception in the bike industry that aluminum is more robust for bigger riding. 

It might get pretty confusing if they started making mountain bikes...

https://www.instagram.com/frameworkbikes/

https://www.instagram.com/frameworksracing/

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12/14/2023 9:52am
Spotted a new Canfield of some sort, vertical shock link, looked to be about 140-160mm travel. Guy riding it said it's "prototype" but refused to give...

Spotted a new Canfield of some sort, vertical shock link, looked to be about 140-160mm travel. Guy riding it said it's "prototype" but refused to give any other information. Didn't get a spy shot because I am dumb.

I assume it was aluminum? Probably had enough room for a bottle? 29 or Mx?

Still alu, didn't spot a bottle or bottle cage inside as it was at a jump park but definitely had space for it. Was full 29.

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12/14/2023 10:06am

The galvanic corrosion of aluminium nipples in carbon rims is also a great example why one has to be very careful with that. For example a layer of glass fibre ontop the carbon fibre is a way to solve this issue 

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12/14/2023 11:38am
PUSH left snowy Colorado and is out in Cali to presumably officially release the USD fork. Is Vital MTB going to get the "scoop"? Are they...

PUSH left snowy Colorado and is out in Cali to presumably officially release the USD fork.

Is Vital MTB going to get the "scoop"?

Are they going to let @TEAMROBOT and @Jonathon Simonetti do some flex testing? Wink

They’re coming to the Santa Cruz area to talk with some LBS that carry them and are doing some tech talks with the community. 
 

I heard they are bringing the 9-1 and the SV8 along with some other cool things. 
 

check out trail head Cyclery’s instagram for details if you’re local

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12/14/2023 9:27pm
Masjo wrote:
There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details...

There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details on anything to do with these topics on their Instagram, worth a follow for the other nerds: https://www.instagram.com/frameworkbikes/

To answer the alu-carbon question, they made a story about it a while back in a Q&A. At least for them, the alu parts are plated and the bonding agent has glass microspheres that go between the tube and the lug so there isn't any carbon touching aluminum. 

They also did a repair on a proto bike with superlight tubing that had broken and basically just cooked the lug until the glue melted and pulled the tubes out. After a bit of sanding inside to get everything clean they just repeated the same process as usual. 

They have also said that 3D printed titanium is super expensive and not as good structurally as CNC'ed parts, but that explanation went a bit over my head with engineering and physics. Maybe it's not as good as CNC but those Atherton bikes have been hucked and still seem ok. The expense isn't surprising as it seems like Atherton Bikes has some big financial backing and is maybe looking to prove themselves before going cash positive (though I have no information to back that up) and maybe the alu prototype is a way to get there. Also maybe aluminum all around just to make it as freeride/bikepark friendly as possible? Even if an equivalently strong carbon tube isn't a big price difference to an aluminum tube, there's still a perception in the bike industry that aluminum is more robust for bigger riding. 

3D printed parts could be more porous than billet milled parts. That's one of the biggest issues I'd say, but from what I've seen it's not really a big problem, parts get filled out nicely. 

With machining it might be really hard to make some of the parts hollow (reaching inside the part with the tool and catching all the pockets) and making things really thin walled might also be a problem. 3D printed parts on the Athertons bikes are double walled where the tube is inserted, making a pocket to apply the glue, to ensure the glue covers the overlaped portion of the lug and tube completely. 

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12/15/2023 8:32am
sspomer wrote:
unno's light-weight ebike with tq motor - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/unno-unveils-ikki-lightweight-long-travel-emtb serious question...why do integrated bar/stem combos exist?

unno's light-weight ebike with tq motor - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/unno-unveils-ikki-lightweig…

serious question...why do integrated bar/stem combos exist?

Photo

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To distract us from the headset cable routing. 

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12/15/2023 10:09am
Masjo wrote:
There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details...

There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details on anything to do with these topics on their Instagram, worth a follow for the other nerds: https://www.instagram.com/frameworkbikes/

To answer the alu-carbon question, they made a story about it a while back in a Q&A. At least for them, the alu parts are plated and the bonding agent has glass microspheres that go between the tube and the lug so there isn't any carbon touching aluminum. 

They also did a repair on a proto bike with superlight tubing that had broken and basically just cooked the lug until the glue melted and pulled the tubes out. After a bit of sanding inside to get everything clean they just repeated the same process as usual. 

They have also said that 3D printed titanium is super expensive and not as good structurally as CNC'ed parts, but that explanation went a bit over my head with engineering and physics. Maybe it's not as good as CNC but those Atherton bikes have been hucked and still seem ok. The expense isn't surprising as it seems like Atherton Bikes has some big financial backing and is maybe looking to prove themselves before going cash positive (though I have no information to back that up) and maybe the alu prototype is a way to get there. Also maybe aluminum all around just to make it as freeride/bikepark friendly as possible? Even if an equivalently strong carbon tube isn't a big price difference to an aluminum tube, there's still a perception in the bike industry that aluminum is more robust for bigger riding. 

Primoz wrote:
3D printed parts could be more porous than billet milled parts. That's one of the biggest issues I'd say, but from what I've seen it's not...

3D printed parts could be more porous than billet milled parts. That's one of the biggest issues I'd say, but from what I've seen it's not really a big problem, parts get filled out nicely. 

With machining it might be really hard to make some of the parts hollow (reaching inside the part with the tool and catching all the pockets) and making things really thin walled might also be a problem. 3D printed parts on the Athertons bikes are double walled where the tube is inserted, making a pocket to apply the glue, to ensure the glue covers the overlaped portion of the lug and tube completely. 

That's where sintering printed parts comes in. Gotta clear up those miniscule voids in the printed components. By how clean that headtube looks I wonder if is forged then machined. 

12/15/2023 2:24pm
Masjo wrote:
There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details...

There's a new company in my hometown making CNCed aluminum + custom carbon tube'd bikes. No MTBs yet but they put out a lot of details on anything to do with these topics on their Instagram, worth a follow for the other nerds: https://www.instagram.com/frameworkbikes/

To answer the alu-carbon question, they made a story about it a while back in a Q&A. At least for them, the alu parts are plated and the bonding agent has glass microspheres that go between the tube and the lug so there isn't any carbon touching aluminum. 

They also did a repair on a proto bike with superlight tubing that had broken and basically just cooked the lug until the glue melted and pulled the tubes out. After a bit of sanding inside to get everything clean they just repeated the same process as usual. 

They have also said that 3D printed titanium is super expensive and not as good structurally as CNC'ed parts, but that explanation went a bit over my head with engineering and physics. Maybe it's not as good as CNC but those Atherton bikes have been hucked and still seem ok. The expense isn't surprising as it seems like Atherton Bikes has some big financial backing and is maybe looking to prove themselves before going cash positive (though I have no information to back that up) and maybe the alu prototype is a way to get there. Also maybe aluminum all around just to make it as freeride/bikepark friendly as possible? Even if an equivalently strong carbon tube isn't a big price difference to an aluminum tube, there's still a perception in the bike industry that aluminum is more robust for bigger riding. 

Primoz wrote:
3D printed parts could be more porous than billet milled parts. That's one of the biggest issues I'd say, but from what I've seen it's not...

3D printed parts could be more porous than billet milled parts. That's one of the biggest issues I'd say, but from what I've seen it's not really a big problem, parts get filled out nicely. 

With machining it might be really hard to make some of the parts hollow (reaching inside the part with the tool and catching all the pockets) and making things really thin walled might also be a problem. 3D printed parts on the Athertons bikes are double walled where the tube is inserted, making a pocket to apply the glue, to ensure the glue covers the overlaped portion of the lug and tube completely. 

HexonJuan wrote:
That's where sintering printed parts comes in. Gotta clear up those miniscule voids in the printed components. By how clean that headtube looks I wonder if...

That's where sintering printed parts comes in. Gotta clear up those miniscule voids in the printed components. By how clean that headtube looks I wonder if is forged then machined. 

Grouchy old Peter Verdone has opinions on printed metal... Not encouraging ones. 

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12/15/2023 2:40pm Edited Date/Time 12/15/2023 2:45pm

Grouchy old Peter Verdone has opinions on printed metal... Not encouraging ones. 

Ok how is PVD still so relevant? Did I miss something back in the day when this guy was the chosen one. I mean he has cool ideas, but why do we believe him so much again.

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Grouchy old Peter Verdone has opinions on printed metal... Not encouraging ones. 

Mwood wrote:
Ok how is PVD still so relevant? Did I miss something back in the day when this guy was the chosen one. I mean he has...

Ok how is PVD still so relevant? Did I miss something back in the day when this guy was the chosen one. I mean he has cool ideas, but why do we believe him so much again.

We don’t. 

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12/15/2023 7:53pm
sspomer wrote:

we got our scoop in february of 2023 LOL.

That wasn't  a scoop, that was a peek with pretty much zero details.

We need it ALL.

Onawalk wrote:
Do we? How bout' this -Inverted (clearly) -39mm lowers -147-176mm travel adjustable in 7mm increments, done internally, can only be done at Push's shop -CNC'd CSU...

Do we?

How bout' this

-Inverted (clearly)

-39mm lowers

-147-176mm travel adjustable in 7mm increments, done internally, can only be done at Push's shop

-CNC'd CSU, that are bonded to the upper tubes using loads of good intentions

-HSC, 47 clicks

-LSC 3 clicks

-HSR, 9.7 clicks

-LSR only adjustable internally, requires several model specific tools, like a 10mm socket (you know yours is mssing) easier to send to Push

-Axle made of unobtainium, with a special 7 sided octagonal design said to increase torsional stiffness by 36.89% over previous model, with proprietary axle sizing, to fit readily available 120mm width hubs

-Its built "for life" (requires make, model, year, colour, wheel size, tire pressure specific tune, that is only approved/tuned by Push.  Currently tunes only available for 2008 Specialized Enduro SL Expert when replacing dual crown, and 2023 Banshee Titan when ridden in mullet configuration, with anodized black frame colour)

-Doesnt require HBO, cause its got NBC* engineering

 

Let me know if I missed anything.....

Oh yeah...

$3800USD, 4200 Euro (+VAT), dont bother asking for $CAD, (enough to buy two 38's or Zebs, with money left over for a season park pass)

 

*(Never Bottom Component)

 

Unfortunately not entirely accurate.

can’t say to much but significantly less price and all mountain to enduro travel range. Also not 39mm lowers.

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12/16/2023 9:40am

Grouchy old Peter Verdone has opinions on printed metal... Not encouraging ones. 

Mwood wrote:
Ok how is PVD still so relevant? Did I miss something back in the day when this guy was the chosen one. I mean he has...

Ok how is PVD still so relevant? Did I miss something back in the day when this guy was the chosen one. I mean he has cool ideas, but why do we believe him so much again.

The man is still claiming short chainstays, slack seat angles and steep head angles are the future and ride better...lol
 

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12/16/2023 9:53am

Grouchy old Peter Verdone has opinions on printed metal... Not encouraging ones. 

Mwood wrote:
Ok how is PVD still so relevant? Did I miss something back in the day when this guy was the chosen one. I mean he has...

Ok how is PVD still so relevant? Did I miss something back in the day when this guy was the chosen one. I mean he has cool ideas, but why do we believe him so much again.

Fred_Pop wrote:

The man is still claiming short chainstays, slack seat angles and steep head angles are the future and ride better...lol
 

A lot of his opinions are unorthodox and weird. On the other hand, he actually walks the walk with his opinions: he builds what he wants, frequently from scratch and/or with extensive modification of existing components, and he rides what he builds. I can't help but respect the commitment. Lots of people talk about what kind of bike they want; far fewer make that kind of effort to create it.

Relevant? IDK. Interesting to observe? Often.

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12/16/2023 11:17am
sspomer wrote:
unno's light-weight ebike with tq motor - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/unno-unveils-ikki-lightweight-long-travel-emtb serious question...why do integrated bar/stem combos exist?

unno's light-weight ebike with tq motor - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/unno-unveils-ikki-lightweig…

serious question...why do integrated bar/stem combos exist?

Photo

Photo

because they wanted to build an 100% stupid bike

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12/16/2023 12:34pm
sspomer wrote:

realized the derailment and i started a thread about it here instead - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/why-do-high-end-integrated-mtb-bars…

Nah, You started it here

You can make it lighter, it looks great (IMO), you can "tune" it for desired outcomes, and make it much shorter than a traditional stem and h-bar.

I dont run one, and dont want one, but even a dullard like me can see the benefits, even if it has drawbacks

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12/16/2023 12:38pm

That wasn't  a scoop, that was a peek with pretty much zero details.

We need it ALL.

Onawalk wrote:
Do we? How bout' this -Inverted (clearly) -39mm lowers -147-176mm travel adjustable in 7mm increments, done internally, can only be done at Push's shop -CNC'd CSU...

Do we?

How bout' this

-Inverted (clearly)

-39mm lowers

-147-176mm travel adjustable in 7mm increments, done internally, can only be done at Push's shop

-CNC'd CSU, that are bonded to the upper tubes using loads of good intentions

-HSC, 47 clicks

-LSC 3 clicks

-HSR, 9.7 clicks

-LSR only adjustable internally, requires several model specific tools, like a 10mm socket (you know yours is mssing) easier to send to Push

-Axle made of unobtainium, with a special 7 sided octagonal design said to increase torsional stiffness by 36.89% over previous model, with proprietary axle sizing, to fit readily available 120mm width hubs

-Its built "for life" (requires make, model, year, colour, wheel size, tire pressure specific tune, that is only approved/tuned by Push.  Currently tunes only available for 2008 Specialized Enduro SL Expert when replacing dual crown, and 2023 Banshee Titan when ridden in mullet configuration, with anodized black frame colour)

-Doesnt require HBO, cause its got NBC* engineering

 

Let me know if I missed anything.....

Oh yeah...

$3800USD, 4200 Euro (+VAT), dont bother asking for $CAD, (enough to buy two 38's or Zebs, with money left over for a season park pass)

 

*(Never Bottom Component)

 

WhoKnows wrote:

Unfortunately not entirely accurate.

can’t say to much but significantly less price and all mountain to enduro travel range. Also not 39mm lowers.

Can we wager on it?

like points for how many items I got correct vs incorrect, if I'm victorious you buy me a 6pack of American pond water?

Spomer, can we get a sarcasm font so theres no mistaking whats being written?

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12/16/2023 1:52pm
Onawalk wrote:
Do we? How bout' this -Inverted (clearly) -39mm lowers -147-176mm travel adjustable in 7mm increments, done internally, can only be done at Push's shop -CNC'd CSU...

Do we?

How bout' this

-Inverted (clearly)

-39mm lowers

-147-176mm travel adjustable in 7mm increments, done internally, can only be done at Push's shop

-CNC'd CSU, that are bonded to the upper tubes using loads of good intentions

-HSC, 47 clicks

-LSC 3 clicks

-HSR, 9.7 clicks

-LSR only adjustable internally, requires several model specific tools, like a 10mm socket (you know yours is mssing) easier to send to Push

-Axle made of unobtainium, with a special 7 sided octagonal design said to increase torsional stiffness by 36.89% over previous model, with proprietary axle sizing, to fit readily available 120mm width hubs

-Its built "for life" (requires make, model, year, colour, wheel size, tire pressure specific tune, that is only approved/tuned by Push.  Currently tunes only available for 2008 Specialized Enduro SL Expert when replacing dual crown, and 2023 Banshee Titan when ridden in mullet configuration, with anodized black frame colour)

-Doesnt require HBO, cause its got NBC* engineering

 

Let me know if I missed anything.....

Oh yeah...

$3800USD, 4200 Euro (+VAT), dont bother asking for $CAD, (enough to buy two 38's or Zebs, with money left over for a season park pass)

 

*(Never Bottom Component)

 

WhoKnows wrote:

Unfortunately not entirely accurate.

can’t say to much but significantly less price and all mountain to enduro travel range. Also not 39mm lowers.

Onawalk wrote:
Can we wager on it? like points for how many items I got correct vs incorrect, if I'm victorious you buy me a 6pack of American...

Can we wager on it?

like points for how many items I got correct vs incorrect, if I'm victorious you buy me a 6pack of American pond water?

Spomer, can we get a sarcasm font so theres no mistaking whats being written?

Try this formatting: 

<sarcasm> </sarcasm>

🙄
 

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12/16/2023 5:32pm
DirkT wrote:
New grip coming?

New grip coming?58CD5B6E-D9EB-4C24-8392-4D96D119644C

Fox was having riders test a new damper last year. Maybe updated grip 2 (grip 3?) and trickling down the old grip 2?

12/16/2023 7:42pm
DirkT wrote:
New grip coming?

New grip coming?58CD5B6E-D9EB-4C24-8392-4D96D119644C

Fox was having riders test a new damper last year. Maybe updated grip 2 (grip 3?) and trickling down the old grip 2?

If my memory serves vaguely right, Taj or Jordi mentioned in a Dialed video that there was gonna be a drop-in upgrade for the Grip Dampener. When they were doing bike checks, Taj mentioned he was running the new dampener. 

Is it time for an all-new fork design? Even if it was, companies like Fox and SRAM are sitting on mountains of products. It's getting to the point where some manufacturers are actually considering scrapping existing inventory to make way for new stuff. Sad really. 

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12/16/2023 7:50pm
If my memory serves vaguely right, Taj or Jordi mentioned in a Dialed video that there was gonna be a drop-in upgrade for the Grip Dampener...

If my memory serves vaguely right, Taj or Jordi mentioned in a Dialed video that there was gonna be a drop-in upgrade for the Grip Dampener. When they were doing bike checks, Taj mentioned he was running the new dampener. 

Is it time for an all-new fork design? Even if it was, companies like Fox and SRAM are sitting on mountains of products. It's getting to the point where some manufacturers are actually considering scrapping existing inventory to make way for new stuff. Sad really. 

Updated 2024 damper specs are on the Fox site:

https://www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike&id=2880

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12/16/2023 7:56pm
DirkT wrote:
New grip coming?

New grip coming?58CD5B6E-D9EB-4C24-8392-4D96D119644C

Whatever it is, I'm glad it can be dropped into a Marzocchi (assuming that isn't also a new chassis that isn't backwards-compatible for some reason).

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