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Primoz wrote:
Looking at the Cast offering, it's just so random. A 35 mm diameter handlebar with either 35 mm or 38 mm rise and 8/5 or 9/6...

Looking at the Cast offering, it's just so random. A 35 mm diameter handlebar with either 35 mm or 38 mm rise and 8/5 or 9/6 degrees of sweep. Then a 28 mm rise bar with a 31,8 mm diameter and 9/6 degrees of sweep.

I was kind of expecting them to only have one diameter of stem, but at least both options are covered. One length only though. 

Another peculiar thing is the fact that only the direct mount stem had an "EFBE certified" claim in the bullet points, the standard (EFX) stem and the handlebars do not. The grade of testing is also not specified. 

I kinda wanna think this is just a menagerie of catalogue components chosen at will by what people supported by the project (supporting the project?) wanted to ride and was thus included in the lineup? 

There also appears to be strong Red Bull connection with the seemingly random group of riders. The majority of them are Red Bull athletes, with the...

There also appears to be strong Red Bull connection with the seemingly random group of riders. The majority of them are Red Bull athletes, with the exception of Greg and the rest of the Norco race team.

The whole thing seems a bit weirdly executed, from announcement to product line up. I'm curious how it will all go... because the industry DEFINITELY needs another generic alloy handlebar and stem combo🙄. 

I am curious about the tires though.... not that I'll ever need a trials specific tire... rather how the tire lineup will evolve around pirelli's own brand, and if there will be competing tire categories down the road, like DH and enduro tires.

 

I already mentioned it a few pages back, but for the RB connection, you just need to look at Tarek Rasouli and his "sell me your soul and 50% of your paycheck and get on Canyon and Red Bull" business model (mostly). Almost all athletes are formerly or currently managed by him. He was at the launch too.

It's all so half assed that it has to be some kind of scheme.

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IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

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Dropouts really look similar, axle seems a bit optimized but is there a pivot on the bottom? Another crab?

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maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

good eyes. that does look like a banshee dropout. 

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maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

Does this also mean it's an ebike? Banshee's first?

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maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

dolface wrote:

Does this also mean it's an ebike? Banshee's first?

Crab link for motor clearance checks out.

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Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

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maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

From a photo from the same website looks like a pivot on the chainstay, unless Banshee has something different coming up the current K2S linkage doesn't have a pivot there. But, they also don't do UDH so the axs derailleur checks out. Would be odd to make an ebike and not be able to spec transmission. Does look very Bansheeish thoughIMG 0126.jpeg?VersionId=f

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maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

jazza_wil wrote:
From a photo from the same website looks like a pivot on the chainstay, unless Banshee has something different coming up the current K2S linkage doesn't...

From a photo from the same website looks like a pivot on the chainstay, unless Banshee has something different coming up the current K2S linkage doesn't have a pivot there. But, they also don't do UDH so the axs derailleur checks out. Would be odd to make an ebike and not be able to spec transmission. Does look very Bansheeish thoughIMG 0126.jpeg?VersionId=f

Current ks link doesn’t leave room for a motor. I suspect they are changing their linkage for an e-bike

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Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

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pK wrote:
Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

Finally, with sunglass ports, I rule out any helmet without them. Hoping the Smith Forefront 3 will be released soon. 

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Karabuka wrote:

Dropouts really look similar, axle seems a bit optimized but is there a pivot on the bottom? Another crab?

FWIW thats the same chainstay rubber that came on my banshee legend...

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Primoz
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Karabuka wrote:

Dropouts really look similar, axle seems a bit optimized but is there a pivot on the bottom? Another crab?

DirtyHal wrote:

FWIW thats the same chainstay rubber that came on my banshee legend...

This one is a Banshee. 

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maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

Sorry to disappoint you guys... Its not a banshee. 

Its a mule we use to develop kinematics and geometries for the new Porsche bikes.

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jazza_wil wrote:
Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame

Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

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maxwrbike
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maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

Sorry to disappoint you guys... Its not a banshee. 

Its a mule we use to develop kinematics and geometries for the new Porsche bikes.

You just ruined my day. Thanks for the info!

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jazza_wil wrote:
Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame

Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

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jazza_wil wrote:
Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame

Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

Eae903 wrote:

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.

After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a similar rocker and dropouts.

IMG 4757

I have recently seen a new AL chromag DJ prototype too si it seems like they are about to offer more alloy frames which would go well with this Freeride frame.

Also Max has the bike fully decked out with Chromag parts. 

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oolex wrote:
Rachel is riding a non-gearbox A200 in Matt Jones' latest video. When will we see her on the new bike?https://youtu.be/jnG5_9WUJPI?si=XjSk9DxRioFIwfLS 

Rachel is riding a non-gearbox A200 in Matt Jones' latest video. When will we see her on the new bike?

https://youtu.be/jnG5_9WUJPI?si=XjSk9DxRioFIwfLS 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think only Charlie and maybe Gee has a gearbox bike at the moment. Rachel does tap the side of her helmet in the vid though as if to hint at something.

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overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

Eae903 wrote:

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

shreda wrote:
My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a...

My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.

After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a similar rocker and dropouts.

IMG 4757

I have recently seen a new AL chromag DJ prototype too si it seems like they are about to offer more alloy frames which would go well with this Freeride frame.

Also Max has the bike fully decked out with Chromag parts. 

IIRC Max is an Orbea athlete, pretty sure that's the new Orbea DH bike that's been mentioned a few times in this thread. There were a couple posts specifically about Max riding that frame back in Canada. My guess is Orbea gave it to him to see if he could break it doing Max things. Unfortunately for him, he broke first, but at least we know the FMD team should have something burly lol.

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pK wrote:
Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

Finally, with sunglass ports, I rule out any helmet without them. Hoping the Smith Forefront 3 will be released soon. 

Is the visor/peak adjustable? Looks like there’s something on top but there’s no photos of any other position. 
I won’t have a visor that doesn’t actually function as one for the purpose of blocking out low sunlight. 
 

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Eae903 wrote:

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

shreda wrote:
My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a...

My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.

After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a similar rocker and dropouts.

IMG 4757

I have recently seen a new AL chromag DJ prototype too si it seems like they are about to offer more alloy frames which would go well with this Freeride frame.

Also Max has the bike fully decked out with Chromag parts. 

WMullins wrote:
IIRC Max is an Orbea athlete, pretty sure that's the new Orbea DH bike that's been mentioned a few times in this thread. There were a...

IIRC Max is an Orbea athlete, pretty sure that's the new Orbea DH bike that's been mentioned a few times in this thread. There were a couple posts specifically about Max riding that frame back in Canada. My guess is Orbea gave it to him to see if he could break it doing Max things. Unfortunately for him, he broke first, but at least we know the FMD team should have something burly lol.

I think he’s been off Orbea for a while and that would be a weird way to launch their new bike when they have FMD to do it.  That bike looks way too generic to be an Orbea, I’d expect something a bit more Wild.  

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pK wrote:
Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

that new speedframe RS should have already dropped in spring 2024, but there are just too many old speedframe helmets in stock everywhere.

looks like fox finally launched it quietly.

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starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

Finally, with sunglass ports, I rule out any helmet without them. Hoping the Smith Forefront 3 will be released soon. 

AJW1 wrote:
Is the visor/peak adjustable? Looks like there’s something on top but there’s no photos of any other position. I won’t have a visor that doesn’t actually function...

Is the visor/peak adjustable? Looks like there’s something on top but there’s no photos of any other position. 
I won’t have a visor that doesn’t actually function as one for the purpose of blocking out low sunlight. 
 

It shows up on hover/mouseover...

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$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

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overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

Screenshot 2025-01-25 at 9.52.40%E2%80%AFAM.png?VersionId=O.rh0qFkMAKq7X8uIG9lhngIglI3h.F

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FaahkEet wrote:
$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your...

$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

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Has anyone seen a review of the Oneup new clipless/clip pedals besides what was discussed on the podcast?

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overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

Screenshot 2025-01-25 at 9.52.40%E2%80%AFAM.png?VersionId=O.rh0qFkMAKq7X8uIG9lhngIglI3h.F

Not quite it, but I'm in the same boat. I've seen this link before. 

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