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ak_trnsplnt
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A safe space for us old guys to talk about how much cooler everything was “back in the day” while we slowly become our parents.

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Salespunk
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1/10/2023 2:10pm

Bars are a little wide on that setup. 

Let's see, wasn't '97, but I think it was around '92 or '94 when I was racing Sport DH at Big Bear and passing the 30/60 second guys in front of me riding Intense M1's on my little Manitou HT with a massive 63 mm of front travel.  Good memories!

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1/10/2023 2:29pm Edited Date/Time 1/10/2023 2:35pm
sspomer wrote:
LOVE THIS THREAD!

LOVE THIS THREAD!

Lawwill Team Issue XCR

What-aaah...what brand chainring is that??- The gold piece. I must have it

 

Also does anyone else mockup all their for-sale items just for funsies??

https://i.redd.it/jyack6m5xml81.jpg

I have a new steel coil for the rear shock in a closet somewhere...an before anyone asks YES I HAD a pristine Girvin fork, also with a new coil spring I bought separate to go with the frame but decided on selling everything. Still got the vintage Raceface riser bars with Avid brake levers + wolftooth grips!

 

brash
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1/10/2023 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/10/2023 2:33pm

My old 1997 Barracuda XXXC, I bought this new when I was 16, Mowed lawns for an eternity to afford it. There was no Cuda distro in Aus back then so I had to fax my order in to Barracuda directly and wire transfer money lol. Very daunting to do with your life savings.

I did everything on that bike, raced XC, Dual Slalom, State DH Rounds etc. The suspension design was a URT which works the exact opposite of bikes now (it was plush seated and firmed up standing) but it didn't matter one bit to me back then, I rode the wheels off it and gave me years of service. The rear shock is still never serviced and works like new lol.

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1/10/2023 3:05pm
sspomer wrote:
LOVE THIS THREAD!

LOVE THIS THREAD!

Lawwill Team Issue XCR

What-aaah...what brand chainring is that??- The gold piece. I must have it   Also does anyone else mockup all their for-sale items just for funsies?? I...

What-aaah...what brand chainring is that??- The gold piece. I must have it

 

Also does anyone else mockup all their for-sale items just for funsies??

https://i.redd.it/jyack6m5xml81.jpg

I have a new steel coil for the rear shock in a closet somewhere...an before anyone asks YES I HAD a pristine Girvin fork, also with a new coil spring I bought separate to go with the frame but decided on selling everything. Still got the vintage Raceface riser bars with Avid brake levers + wolftooth grips!

 

Yes to the mocking up spare parts... IMG 20200914 113232

 

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Big Bird
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1/10/2023 3:31pm Edited Date/Time 1/10/2023 3:36pm

My first DH race was down near the Mexican border in about '96. I had gotten a sport class license, but I forgot it for that trip, so I raced beginner and won my first race. At the top of the course, the local Sherrif was burning piles of confiscated weed and it was strange how the warm up loop kept moving with the changes in the wind. My first DH bike was my 22" polished Santa Cruz Heckler with OG Z1 Bombers and gold Pro Tapers. I had some good sport class results culminating in a second place at the Snowqualmie National. From there I was dead center (Within three places.) in the Expert class until the end of my racing career.

And YES to those old Fox shocks holding up forever. My first ever air shock, never serviced, is still working great on a loaner DH bike that I built up out of spare parts. The engineers at Fox should really look back at those old things and figure out what they stopped doing right.

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Ahab
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1/10/2023 4:36pm
mickey wrote:

@sspomer you have any copies of Clappin Yo Dome left?   

Still waiting for mine

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bizutch
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1/10/2023 5:50pm

MtSnowNORBA1998DH

 Mt Snow NORBA National 1998.  Best DH course I've ever ridden to this date. Forest Service shut it down after this year. 3 lines wide through the woods. Worst drought they'd have in decades so deep loam. 
Snapped chain on the 2nd grass straight under the lift with a rag doll. Was so broke I stuffed my chain in my Intense Grassroots Team Issue XC jersey pocket & kept going.
Assumed it was over but like everyone else, passed 4 or 5 guys. 
Big giant 44 tooth. 4" White Bros DH 110 fork w/ bent stanchions and motor oil from the White Brothers team truck
Hydraulic rim brakes. Brake booster. Ti White Brothers handlebars.  
Such a brutal week. Such and awesome week.  So many things then that just don't exist now. 
Did NOT use the lockout on my Stratos rear coil shock. Woohoo

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1/10/2023 6:12pm

I'm an old guy that wants to play! 

2004 Sea Otter. Too Tech for it's Time! Woohoo

And.....the palatial 630sqft OG PUSH Industries facility in Irvine where we built them while be taunted by Sven. Oh, those were the days!

ECOtterIMG 2422

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sspomer
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1/10/2023 6:59pm

i pulled the lawwill pic from this bike check

https://www.vitalmtb.com/community/Pippin-Cvg,52576/setup,41727

@mickey and @Ahab - sorry, i don't. i have an empty DVD sleeve. i thought i put it online at some point, but it was probably a Real Player 7 file hosted on geocities or something.

@PUSH Industries - post the red boxxer tubes!

@bizutch i found the orig photo of your race run.

bizoid

 

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Big Bird
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1/10/2023 8:58pm

My favorite race ever was at the Norba National in Crystal Mountain, Washingtonian 2000. I road tripped it in a loop with the Park City National. The first thousand feet of elevation drop was a Freeride zone. You just left the start and made your way through a gate way down there before the taped course started. A fast line burned in pretty quick. The track was pretty duffy and by the bottom there were BB deep ruts with pedal ruts in the turns. It took two chair lifts to get to the top, so you could practice whichever zone was the least crowded. There were so many people camping in the woods that they ended up opening up the employee quarters for people to stay in. It was quite the party at night.

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metadave
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1/10/2023 9:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/10/2023 9:35pm

I didn't start racing until 02, but as a bike nerd and now solidly into resto-mods after my BB7 and Rocky Switch builds, here's some current basement projects spanning from 93-02

1. 1996 GT LTS

2.  93? 94? Stumpjumper FS

3. 1999 Rocky Team issue XC

4 2002 Brodie Holeshot I'm trying to make a Slalom bike

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IMG 20230110 222504726 HDR.jpg?VersionId=Y7gjO8obxP4m94Ejx3VmA

 IMG 20230110 222517120 HDR

 

 IMG 20230110 222547321 HDR.jpg?VersionId=Np

 

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1/10/2023 10:55pm

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 96 I think, at Killington. Riding a Gary Fisher, wearing Dyno pants and Specialized jersey!

Then 98 on my Spooky Metalhead at Seven Springs. 041B72C4-8DDA-454C-A112-A229F021D6EE.jpeg?VersionId=zCgxc

 

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Sven_Claas
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1/11/2023 12:07am

This perhaps qualifies for #toosoon, but remember when slideshows...

 

@sspomer the #TractionStrategy still needs an update I feel. Wink  

2021 Leogang World Cup Downhill Race Slideshow - Mountain Biking Pictures - Vital  MTB

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1/11/2023 3:29am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2023 3:32am

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 Not so long ago, and probably not enough for this thread.
Intense Uzzi (with Z1), Spe P2 (with Sherman), Giant AC (with Junior T), Spe Pitch, Demo 8 (with dorado), NS Bitch, Intense Soccom(with 888).
I'll dig older one...
 

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jimmypop
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1/11/2023 9:11am

The first World Cups/NORBA nationals I attended were in 1993 (I think Mt. Snow used to be a dual NORBA/UCI event?). I was 13/14 at the time, so I "raced", but it was mostly about the spectating. Seeing the riders who I saw in magazines in person was surreal to a kid. 

I have such fond memories of the travel, the rising and racing, and the whole scene.

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jimmypop
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1/11/2023 9:13am
 96 I think, at Killington. Riding a Gary Fisher, wearing Dyno pants and Specialized jersey! Then 98 on my Spooky Metalhead at Seven Springs.   

66D1081C-E58D-42D7-8280-666C35BA94B3

 96 I think, at Killington. Riding a Gary Fisher, wearing Dyno pants and Specialized jersey!

Then 98 on my Spooky Metalhead at Seven Springs. 041B72C4-8DDA-454C-A112-A229F021D6EE.jpeg?VersionId=zCgxc

 

Was it Seven Springs 1998 when Shaums March collected money from the crowd to boost the DS course jump and snapped his crank on the landing? That may have been 1997.

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Big Bird
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1/11/2023 10:37am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2023 10:40am
jimmypop wrote:
Was it Seven Springs 1998 when Shaums March collected money from the crowd to boost the DS course jump and snapped his crank on the landing...

Was it Seven Springs 1998 when Shaums March collected money from the crowd to boost the DS course jump and snapped his crank on the landing? That may have been 1997.

Shaums was my hero. I learned to bunny hop my Super 8 onto picnic tables just like him.

I wish Peddle4life was still with us. He would have loved this thread. Sadly he passed away from multiple myeloma recently.

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Maxipedia
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1/11/2023 11:53am

I don't want to admit I'm old, but I am writing this just to subscribe to this thread. Smile  

jimmypop
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1/11/2023 6:54pm
jimmypop wrote:
Was it Seven Springs 1998 when Shaums March collected money from the crowd to boost the DS course jump and snapped his crank on the landing...

Was it Seven Springs 1998 when Shaums March collected money from the crowd to boost the DS course jump and snapped his crank on the landing? That may have been 1997.

Big Bird wrote:
Shaums was my hero. I learned to bunny hop my Super 8 onto picnic tables just like him. I wish Peddle4life was still with us. He...

Shaums was my hero. I learned to bunny hop my Super 8 onto picnic tables just like him.

I wish Peddle4life was still with us. He would have loved this thread. Sadly he passed away from multiple myeloma recently.

Pedal4life from these forums? He was active up through November. I'm sorry to hear that.

More of us than not here probably crossed paths at those 90s races.

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Big Bird
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1/11/2023 7:23pm
jimmypop wrote:
Pedal4life from these forums? He was active up through November. I'm sorry to hear that. More of us than not here probably crossed paths at those...

Pedal4life from these forums? He was active up through November. I'm sorry to hear that.

More of us than not here probably crossed paths at those 90s races.

Yep. The name was no joke.

I kind of feel like the only West Coaster around here. 

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astrizzle
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1/11/2023 9:28pm

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 Speaking of the Mt. Snow Norba race series, they were soo badass back in the day that all the top riders traveled out there to race, granted there weren't as many pros as there are today but you still got all the big guns out there racing. Sobe beverages even sponsored the event so you were constantly encouraged to get a free dose of orange or green sugar while you watch some bike racing. I wonder what ever happened to that company btw. 

 

The "yard sale" section was the place to be, just a nice 1.5 mile hike from the finish line and you could see pure greatness, like this guy. Cedric won the 4 cross and the DH that day I think and even if he didn't do either, he still won everyone's favorite rider award for being a total badass and pulling suicide no handers on the 4 cross course.

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nh dude
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1/12/2023 2:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 3:05pm

mtsnow052002 Mt Snow Sport Course - Roxy's Rock.

2003 I was onto the Balfa BB7 and racing from the top.

2005 Giant DH Comp from the top.

2007 on a sinister r9 and racing on Sundays !

2002 mt snow 0.jpg?VersionId=qibPe3TNBJxUUgnL63o5GXbKZbr

 

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