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Edited Date/Time 6/30/2023 6:37am

Val di Sole is here and it's the last World Cup DH for a while. This is the place to keep up on what's happening at the race.

Free, Live Race Streams (we're using GMBN Racing's YouTube live feed as they've seemed more consistent than UCI MTB World Series feeds. Note that race start times are slightly different on the two channels, so we'll update if necessary as the live streams approach.)

Junior DH Race - Thursday June 30, 4:15am PST (says Junior Women, but it's the only Jr race live stream on the channel)

 

Elite DH Semi-final Race - Saturday July 1, 1:30am PST

 

 

We'll kick it off w/ Stefan Garlicki's walk down the track. "The best Val di Sole in a while," according to Stefan. The track has more turns slowing things down, the insane holes have been filled in.

 

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6/27/2023 8:03am

We'll have to see how the track evolves, but I always loved VDS for it's gnar and it looks like a lot of that has been lost.

 

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6/27/2023 8:13am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2023 8:23am

It'll be interesting to see how the back filled dirt holds up. Lots of changes. 

Edit: also it's been made slower and longer with all the bus stops and extra turns put in. So maybe the talk of eso making shorter/faster course for better tv was wrong? 

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6/27/2023 8:16am

weather for VDS looks like rain, so could dirt wash away if rain is heavy enough?

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6/27/2023 8:50am

Lots of turns. Be interested to see how it looks once itโ€™s fully taped. 
interesting to see how the fresh dirt holds up through practice, quali semis and i to finals. 

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6/27/2023 9:45am

The new sections look pretty gnar, honestly. I've walked the old track many times and was always in awe at everyone as they raced it at speed. I'm stoked to see how they handle the new stuff. 

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6/27/2023 9:59am

After all the talk (complaints) about how gnarly VDS was last year, adding dirt in many sections feels like an appropriate and necessary response. I'd bet it still changes a lot and roughens up through the weekend, especially with some rain. 

Also 100% down with the addition of a few shitty, awkward corners. That's what DH needs to separate people as we continue to trend towards fast/straight tracks. So stoked for this weekend!

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6/27/2023 10:00am
kcy4130 wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how the back filled dirt holds up. Lots of changes.  Edit: also it's been made slower and longer with all the...

It'll be interesting to see how the back filled dirt holds up. Lots of changes. 

Edit: also it's been made slower and longer with all the bus stops and extra turns put in. So maybe the talk of eso making shorter/faster course for better tv was wrong? 

Remember this is year one where Chris said they're not going to change courses a ton. Explaining Val Di Sole's changes this year: 
Riders complained a lot about bomb holes, track falling apart. +Riders complained about safety of the track 
= Filled in tons of holes (will make it faster) & added corners to slow it back down given new smoothness. 

2024 Val Di Sole track (if it's on the calendar) may chop the top 20% of the track to make race times shorter for ESO's long term plans, etc. 

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6/27/2023 10:01am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2023 1:08pm

For those who are worried about the track being too smooth, I *promise* the holes are coming back. It's one of the steepest tracks on the circuit, there are unlimited nasty rocks and roots hiding under the fresh dirt, and the dirt on that hill is loose, dry, and unstable. Once they dump 250 racers on the track for three days of practice, quali's, semi's, and finals, the holes will come. I think if they'd made it smoother and straighter that would have been a bad idea, but it looks like they've made some good extra turns to bring the speed in check and I suspect we'll see some great racing. Here's a reminder of what the original race track looked like at World Champs in 2008, and that track got plenty rough over the next 15 years: https://www.pinkbike.com/video/46306/

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6/27/2023 11:25am

I've always wondered if certain frames (both of the rider and the bike) would fair better on tracks like this. Based on the results, it never seems makes as big of a difference as I would have thought.... 

Also if anyone feels like joining fantasy, I built a web app for the 2023 season: www.downhillmtbfantasy.com

6/27/2023 1:54pm

My prediction is that it will be faster than it looks. I like the changes and it's definitely not a smooth track now, the old layout was getting old IMO.

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6/27/2023 6:31pm

bUt tHeRe aRe rOcKs aNd sTuMpS On tHe tRaCk aNd iN ThE B ZoNe. WhAt iF SoMeOnE CrAsHeS?

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6/28/2023 6:22am

pit bits vid from VDS. nukeproof w/ the weight on the bike???

 

 

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6/28/2023 6:38am Edited Date/Time 6/28/2023 9:56am

Live sesh from the pits with The Union. Dak joined in for a sesh with some great insight.

 

Contents

0:00 - Dak Norton on Frida Ronning's Bike Setup

10:39 - Lachie Stevens McNab and His Broken Foot

11:57 - Prepping Chris Hauser's V10 & Tubeless Setup

15:22 - Chris Hauser Discusses the Track and OChain Service

19:50 - Hauser Gets Arty on the Crank Bros Shoes

21:41 - Managing Limited Tire Budget

26:25 - Spoke Tension

28:20 - FROTHER

30:00 - Two Mechanics for 5 Bikes and Riders

 

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6/28/2023 6:46am
sspomer wrote:
Val di Sole is here and it's the last World Cup DH for a while. This is the place to keep up on what's happening at...

Val di Sole is here and it's the last World Cup DH for a while. This is the place to keep up on what's happening at the race.

Free, Live Race Streams (we're using GMBN Racing's YouTube live feed as they've seemed more consistent than UCI MTB World Series feeds. Note that race start times are slightly different on the two channels, so we'll update if necessary as the live streams approach.)

Junior DH Race - Thursday June 30, 4:15am PST (says Junior Women, but it's the only Jr race live stream on the channel)

 

Elite DH Semi-final Race - Saturday July 1, 1:30am PST

 

 

We'll kick it off w/ Stefan Garlicki's walk down the track. "The best Val di Sole in a while," according to Stefan. The track has more turns slowing things down, the insane holes have been filled in.

 

Val di Smooth.... ๐Ÿคฆ

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6/28/2023 7:38am
sspomer wrote:
Val di Sole is here and it's the last World Cup DH for a while. This is the place to keep up on what's happening at...

Val di Sole is here and it's the last World Cup DH for a while. This is the place to keep up on what's happening at the race.

Free, Live Race Streams (we're using GMBN Racing's YouTube live feed as they've seemed more consistent than UCI MTB World Series feeds. Note that race start times are slightly different on the two channels, so we'll update if necessary as the live streams approach.)

Junior DH Race - Thursday June 30, 4:15am PST (says Junior Women, but it's the only Jr race live stream on the channel)

 

Elite DH Semi-final Race - Saturday July 1, 1:30am PST

 

 

We'll kick it off w/ Stefan Garlicki's walk down the track. "The best Val di Sole in a while," according to Stefan. The track has more turns slowing things down, the insane holes have been filled in.

 

Saruti wrote:

Val di Smooth.... ๐Ÿคฆ

It's steep AF, with a bunch of off-camber sections, awkward corners and rain in the forecast. Not too worried.

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6/28/2023 8:47am
sspomer wrote:
Val di Sole is here and it's the last World Cup DH for a while. This is the place to keep up on what's happening at...

Val di Sole is here and it's the last World Cup DH for a while. This is the place to keep up on what's happening at the race.

Free, Live Race Streams (we're using GMBN Racing's YouTube live feed as they've seemed more consistent than UCI MTB World Series feeds. Note that race start times are slightly different on the two channels, so we'll update if necessary as the live streams approach.)

Junior DH Race - Thursday June 30, 4:15am PST (says Junior Women, but it's the only Jr race live stream on the channel)

 

Elite DH Semi-final Race - Saturday July 1, 1:30am PST

 

 

We'll kick it off w/ Stefan Garlicki's walk down the track. "The best Val di Sole in a while," according to Stefan. The track has more turns slowing things down, the insane holes have been filled in.

 

Saruti wrote:

Val di Smooth.... ๐Ÿคฆ

Yoda wrote:

It's steep AF, with a bunch of off-camber sections, awkward corners and rain in the forecast. Not too worried.

Screenshot 2023-06-28 at 08.47.19

 

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6/28/2023 9:05am

1.2" of rain on Friday. On a track that has a bunch of freshly backfilled dirt? That could get bad, really bad. I hope they compacted the dirt! 

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6/28/2023 10:56am

junior practice from this morn! track look darn rad

 

 

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6/28/2023 10:59am
 Dak updates 

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 Dak updates Laughing

this needs to become a thing, Dak updates from the race.

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6/28/2023 11:10am

POV w/ hauser slaying the fresh track this morn!

 

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6/28/2023 11:32am

For the Junior DH Finals you might want to go with UCI MTB World Series' Youtube schedule. They say the broadcast starts at 6:40 a.m. Eastern / 3:40 a.m. Pacific on Friday. That matches up well with UCI's schedule, which shows the Junior Women starting at 6:45 Eastern and Junior Men a half hour later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gU8_i-kKKY

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6/28/2023 12:09pm

RIDE printed in huge letters across the ass is cracking me up.

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6/28/2023 12:35pm Edited Date/Time 6/28/2023 12:35pm
 Dak updates 

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 Dak updates Laughing

w4s wrote:

this needs to become a thing, Dak updates from the race.

But only in texts. This is gold!

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For the Junior DH Finals you might want to go with UCI MTB World Series' Youtube schedule. They say the broadcast starts at 6:40 a.m. Eastern...

For the Junior DH Finals you might want to go with UCI MTB World Series' Youtube schedule. They say the broadcast starts at 6:40 a.m. Eastern / 3:40 a.m. Pacific on Friday. That matches up well with UCI's schedule, which shows the Junior Women starting at 6:45 Eastern and Junior Men a half hour later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gU8_i-kKKY

for the last two races the world series page was the one that had problems (live links disappeared and changed etc). i mentioned the diff in schedule between gcn and uci in that first post and will keep on it as things get closer, embedding the ones that seem best.

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6/28/2023 12:56pm

Reece Wilson is gonna give it a go! 

 

 

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6/28/2023 2:21pm

From looks of things it should breakdown enough to force some alternate lines from some guys and potentially make some lines that would otherwise be slow competitive.  But it shouldnโ€™t be leogang 2020 bad.  But I guess weโ€™ll have to wait and see.

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6/29/2023 7:07am

In the  women's juniors, a new name to follow: Sacha Earnest.

She scorched the qualis this morning, won the NZ U19 Nationals, and has performed absolutely fantastically in Crankworx this year.

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