Honest question, what surfaces are you having problems with on Maxxis DC tires? I've been running a Maxxgrip front/DC rear combo for years on in Oregon...
Honest question, what surfaces are you having problems with on Maxxis DC tires? I've been running a Maxxgrip front/DC rear combo for years on in Oregon, Washington, BC, California, Arizona, and Idaho in the sun and rain and haven't had any problems with it as a rear tire*. For a downhill race I'd switch to a Maxxgrip rear for just a little more grip and damping over chatter, but it's not like the bike was unridable with the harder rear tire.
*Of course, dual compound tires should never, ever, ever be mounted as a front tire
I've run an Maxxis Assegai Exo DC on the front for years with cushcore and love it! Super grip due to low pressure and the tyre lasts over a year!
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran this tire and it was awesome. Except for when the side lugs used to tear super easy, but hopefully they fixed that.
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran...
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran this tire and it was awesome. Except for when the side lugs used to tear super easy, but hopefully they fixed that.
...from a time when Continental was not even a (good) thing in MTB.
As I'm curious about the new stumpy, I took a screen grab of his most recent video. IT doesn't look different than the current stumpy, but hard to say.
As I'm curious about the new stumpy, I took a screen grab of his most recent video. IT doesn't look different than the current stumpy, but...
As I'm curious about the new stumpy, I took a screen grab of his most recent video. IT doesn't look different than the current stumpy, but hard to say.
That is not the new Stumpy. It's going to lose the side arm like the current version. Like the Levo SL, which is basically the new Stumpjumper.
Specialized is in a bind with the Stumpjumper EVO as they still have more stock to clear out, which is why the new model has been done and not released for over a year.
New 2025 Stumpy (a couple of versions – Comp, Exper, Pro including Ohlins build) sort of leaked on one website, but no photos yet.
New 2025 Stumpy (a couple of versions – Comp, Exper, Pro including Ohlins build) sort of leaked on one website, but no photos yet.
Translation: Delivery time: Available from June 8th, 2024.
First EWS is May 10-12 so it will for sure have to break cover there under Murray (I'm sure there will be spy shots before). New Enduro was supposed to be out before the new Stumpy, but as I've said a few times, they went back to the drawing board to copy the prototype Demo so it got delayed.
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran...
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran this tire and it was awesome. Except for when the side lugs used to tear super easy, but hopefully they fixed that.
Wasn't it stock on V1 Big Hits?
(This bike... 26/24 mullet and w/ the bigger linkage, up to 3' tires -damn I need to get one)
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and...
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and...
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I was expecting them to be significantly more powerful. Having gotten my greasy fingers on all the brakes in test except the Trickstuffs, nothing comes close to the Hopes for build quality and the complete lack of play/slop in the lever.
It seems like they have based the results on lever feel and ergonomics which unlike power are quite subjective. I have two sets of Tech 4 V4's and love them but the softer lever feel certainly took some getting too. Some friends have tried them and liked them others didn't. They also seem to have been deducted points due to running on DOT fluid instead of the completely safe and lickable mineral oil.
Overall a good test and having dyno numbers to reference back too is a great resource.
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and...
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and...
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I...
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I was expecting them to be significantly more powerful. Having gotten my greasy fingers on all the brakes in test except the Trickstuffs, nothing comes close to the Hopes for build quality and the complete lack of play/slop in the lever.
It seems like they have based the results on lever feel and ergonomics which unlike power are quite subjective. I have two sets of Tech 4 V4's and love them but the softer lever feel certainly took some getting too. Some friends have tried them and liked them others didn't. They also seem to have been deducted points due to running on DOT fluid instead of the completely safe and lickable mineral oil.
Overall a good test and having dyno numbers to reference back too is a great resource.
i'm certainly curious as to how the various metrics were factored and weighted in the final assessment.
one feature only the dominion's have is the alignment set screws on the calipers ("crosshair"). for how long these brakes have been on the market i'm astonished that nobody has copied it yet.
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and...
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I...
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I was expecting them to be significantly more powerful. Having gotten my greasy fingers on all the brakes in test except the Trickstuffs, nothing comes close to the Hopes for build quality and the complete lack of play/slop in the lever.
It seems like they have based the results on lever feel and ergonomics which unlike power are quite subjective. I have two sets of Tech 4 V4's and love them but the softer lever feel certainly took some getting too. Some friends have tried them and liked them others didn't. They also seem to have been deducted points due to running on DOT fluid instead of the completely safe and lickable mineral oil.
Overall a good test and having dyno numbers to reference back too is a great resource.
I love Enduro MTB's tests. Having real data to their opinions is always helpful. However, the always do something odd in the testing that kind of makes me wonder why they did what they did.
For instance, on their chart showing brake performance they decided to use sinter/metallic pads for all the brakes except for the Mavens and TRP. The fact that the Mavens were as powerful as they were with organic pads leads me to believe that they actually might be the strongest brake out there on the market currently. Not to derail this thread on another brake discussion, but figured I'd point it out.
Personally, I think the current troy is one of the most underrated bikes out there right now. Devinci is one of the brands I worry anyone the current industry climate, just because they seem to have a fairly limited reach.
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran...
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran this tire and it was awesome. Except for when the side lugs used to tear super easy, but hopefully they fixed that.
(This bike... 26/24 mullet and w/ the bigger linkage, up to 3' tires -damn I need to get one)
I would love a modern big hit, something fully dedicated to riding like an idiot on trails vs. being a dedicated park bike. The OG Bighit comp is one of the bikes that got away, for me.
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I...
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I was expecting them to be significantly more powerful. Having gotten my greasy fingers on all the brakes in test except the Trickstuffs, nothing comes close to the Hopes for build quality and the complete lack of play/slop in the lever.
It seems like they have based the results on lever feel and ergonomics which unlike power are quite subjective. I have two sets of Tech 4 V4's and love them but the softer lever feel certainly took some getting too. Some friends have tried them and liked them others didn't. They also seem to have been deducted points due to running on DOT fluid instead of the completely safe and lickable mineral oil.
Overall a good test and having dyno numbers to reference back too is a great resource.
I've had almost all of them with ride time and the Trickstuff has a lot of similarities with Hope, the quality is just slightly more refined and better, but not by much. They also ditch DOT, which I know some people care more about than others, although it's a big issue in the US where Bionol is nearly impossible to find. I tripped over my bottle and nearly lost half of it, which made for a rough moment and a few bad words. I also feel at the price point they should include bleed tools, Intend does and IMO there is no reason you should pay that much for a boutique brand of brakes that uses a hard to find fluid and bleed kit and it not be included.
I prefer the Hope clamp mechanism, the Maxima clamp is really secure but kindof fiddly. Trickstuff offers more detailed instructions on how to use their braided hoses, Hope sells the kit but 0 instructions on how to install it. The Trickstuff brakes are a little more intuitive feeling at first, but it's really marginal. The Hope adjusters are easier to use and don't get in the way, the Trickstuff reach adjuster can kindof get in the way of grips or controls at times. The Hope lever body sits pretty far in on the bar, which might irritate some and make for a slightly messier cockpit. The Maximas allow for easier hose alignment, whereas Hope it's real easy to end up with a twisted hose during install. It's all nitpicky and they are both great, but it's hard to justify the Maximas at the price point, regardless of how good they are, they are only marginally better than the T4 V4s IMO.
IMO where these won't work for some is riders who want a more defined bite point when the pads engage. Both of these you can keep pulling right on past the engagement point and it'll feel less force is required to reach power than most other brakes, it's not super intuitive. You have to learn to feel the brakes instead of the lever, if that makes sense. I got used to it, but found that brakes with a more defined bite point worked better for me (Dominions, Intend, Maven, etc), I think riders moving from SRAM or Shimano will have an easier time adjusting to Dominions than they would Hope or Trickstuff due to this. That's not a knock on them, just that you have to spend some time adjusting to the lever feel and some won't want to do that.
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and...
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I...
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I was expecting them to be significantly more powerful. Having gotten my greasy fingers on all the brakes in test except the Trickstuffs, nothing comes close to the Hopes for build quality and the complete lack of play/slop in the lever.
It seems like they have based the results on lever feel and ergonomics which unlike power are quite subjective. I have two sets of Tech 4 V4's and love them but the softer lever feel certainly took some getting too. Some friends have tried them and liked them others didn't. They also seem to have been deducted points due to running on DOT fluid instead of the completely safe and lickable mineral oil.
Overall a good test and having dyno numbers to reference back too is a great resource.
I love Enduro MTB's tests. Having real data to their opinions is always helpful. However, the always do something odd in the testing that kind of...
I love Enduro MTB's tests. Having real data to their opinions is always helpful. However, the always do something odd in the testing that kind of makes me wonder why they did what they did.
For instance, on their chart showing brake performance they decided to use sinter/metallic pads for all the brakes except for the Mavens and TRP. The fact that the Mavens were as powerful as they were with organic pads leads me to believe that they actually might be the strongest brake out there on the market currently. Not to derail this thread on another brake discussion, but figured I'd point it out.
Metallic pads aren't inherently more powerful than organic pads and quite often its the opposite. Metallic pads might work better in the wet and are more durable but organic pads like Galfer greens, Sinter greens and Trickstuff power+ are more powerful. Especially in lab conditions.
I've run an Maxxis Assegai Exo DC on the front for years with cushcore and love it! Super grip due to low pressure and the tyre lasts over a year!
New Specialized Kenevo SL 2 and Turbo Levo SL Comp Alloy being released.
https://www.probikesupply.com/collections/2024-specialized-s-works-turb…
https://www.probikesupply.com/collections/2024-specialized-turbo-levo-s…
This tire is from a design that is probably older than you. Before the DHF was even a thing, a lot of us in here ran this tire and it was awesome. Except for when the side lugs used to tear super easy, but hopefully they fixed that.
...from a time when Continental was not even a (good) thing in MTB.
New enduro in time for the EDR premiere? Or how do ya´ll interpret Charlie Murray´s latest IG post?
Bet it’s the new stumpy. Heard summer release and it will come with a new “special” shock
Also heard enduro going HP and later this year early next year release
Can someone post Murray’s post?
As I'm curious about the new stumpy, I took a screen grab of his most recent video. IT doesn't look different than the current stumpy, but hard to say.
And here is the instagram post referenced. "It’s almost time for a new bike for the 2024 race season but I’ll always have a soft spot for this beautiful thing" with a picture of the current stumpy https://www.instagram.com/p/C6ECVXosS4p/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Looks nothing like a kaiser
GMBN has a video in which they blur out R. Payne's bike at the 24-hour Old Pueblo race in Tucson. Maybe it's a proper XC bike.
Isn't that what the Mezzer Pro supposed to be? It has 37mm stanchions and Dorado damper.
That is not the new Stumpy. It's going to lose the side arm like the current version. Like the Levo SL, which is basically the new Stumpjumper.
Specialized is in a bind with the Stumpjumper EVO as they still have more stock to clear out, which is why the new model has been done and not released for over a year.
New 2025 Stumpy (a couple of versions – Comp, Exper, Pro including Ohlins build) sort of leaked on one website, but no photos yet.
Translation: Delivery time: Available from June 8th, 2024.
First EWS is May 10-12 so it will for sure have to break cover there under Murray (I'm sure there will be spy shots before). New Enduro was supposed to be out before the new Stumpy, but as I've said a few times, they went back to the drawing board to copy the prototype Demo so it got delayed.
Wasn't it stock on V1 Big Hits?
(This bike... 26/24 mullet and w/ the bigger linkage, up to 3' tires -damn I need to get one)
It does have the cartridge indeed... but even if I'm sold on their 37mm stanchions and reverse arch design: it is still not a Dorado
(as you may imagine I'm lying on the floor and crying like a 3-year old)
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
interesting brake test, still cannot understand how the "battle" for the best brake was between the Dominions and the mavens and not between trickstuffs and hopes, hopes do everything better than the mavens, stop you quicker, better lever feel, easier to bleed, cheaper to buy, way better looking, even lighter, don't really know, regardless, interesting test backed up by dyno data
shame they didn't include saints
So that new thing from Propain; I've got it on good authority that it will be a gravel bike. They call it the "Terrel".
I can confirm this.
Although last I heard, the new Stumpy generation was supposed to be launched in May, not June.
Its clear the Hopes are the winner on power and deceleration times. Trickstuff's where the best in some of the tests but for their price I was expecting them to be significantly more powerful. Having gotten my greasy fingers on all the brakes in test except the Trickstuffs, nothing comes close to the Hopes for build quality and the complete lack of play/slop in the lever.
It seems like they have based the results on lever feel and ergonomics which unlike power are quite subjective. I have two sets of Tech 4 V4's and love them but the softer lever feel certainly took some getting too. Some friends have tried them and liked them others didn't. They also seem to have been deducted points due to running on DOT fluid instead of the completely safe and lickable mineral oil.
Overall a good test and having dyno numbers to reference back too is a great resource.
for how old the current saint models are now that may have been considered elder abuse
and given how they excluded those, an update might be already in the review process (hopefully)
i'm certainly curious as to how the various metrics were factored and weighted in the final assessment.
one feature only the dominion's have is the alignment set screws on the calipers ("crosshair"). for how long these brakes have been on the market i'm astonished that nobody has copied it yet.
I love Enduro MTB's tests. Having real data to their opinions is always helpful. However, the always do something odd in the testing that kind of makes me wonder why they did what they did.
For instance, on their chart showing brake performance they decided to use sinter/metallic pads for all the brakes except for the Mavens and TRP. The fact that the Mavens were as powerful as they were with organic pads leads me to believe that they actually might be the strongest brake out there on the market currently. Not to derail this thread on another brake discussion, but figured I'd point it out.
Personally, I think the current troy is one of the most underrated bikes out there right now. Devinci is one of the brands I worry anyone the current industry climate, just because they seem to have a fairly limited reach.
I would love a modern big hit, something fully dedicated to riding like an idiot on trails vs. being a dedicated park bike. The OG Bighit comp is one of the bikes that got away, for me.
I've had almost all of them with ride time and the Trickstuff has a lot of similarities with Hope, the quality is just slightly more refined and better, but not by much. They also ditch DOT, which I know some people care more about than others, although it's a big issue in the US where Bionol is nearly impossible to find. I tripped over my bottle and nearly lost half of it, which made for a rough moment and a few bad words. I also feel at the price point they should include bleed tools, Intend does and IMO there is no reason you should pay that much for a boutique brand of brakes that uses a hard to find fluid and bleed kit and it not be included.
I prefer the Hope clamp mechanism, the Maxima clamp is really secure but kindof fiddly. Trickstuff offers more detailed instructions on how to use their braided hoses, Hope sells the kit but 0 instructions on how to install it. The Trickstuff brakes are a little more intuitive feeling at first, but it's really marginal. The Hope adjusters are easier to use and don't get in the way, the Trickstuff reach adjuster can kindof get in the way of grips or controls at times. The Hope lever body sits pretty far in on the bar, which might irritate some and make for a slightly messier cockpit. The Maximas allow for easier hose alignment, whereas Hope it's real easy to end up with a twisted hose during install. It's all nitpicky and they are both great, but it's hard to justify the Maximas at the price point, regardless of how good they are, they are only marginally better than the T4 V4s IMO.
IMO where these won't work for some is riders who want a more defined bite point when the pads engage. Both of these you can keep pulling right on past the engagement point and it'll feel less force is required to reach power than most other brakes, it's not super intuitive. You have to learn to feel the brakes instead of the lever, if that makes sense. I got used to it, but found that brakes with a more defined bite point worked better for me (Dominions, Intend, Maven, etc), I think riders moving from SRAM or Shimano will have an easier time adjusting to Dominions than they would Hope or Trickstuff due to this. That's not a knock on them, just that you have to spend some time adjusting to the lever feel and some won't want to do that.
"nothing" is a stretch, but my eyes might be calibrated differently. Should be a great tire, regardless.
Metallic pads aren't inherently more powerful than organic pads and quite often its the opposite. Metallic pads might work better in the wet and are more durable but organic pads like Galfer greens, Sinter greens and Trickstuff power+ are more powerful. Especially in lab conditions.
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