Norco going high pivot on models above Fluid makes a lotta sense from a company standpoint. Product differentiation. Fluid gets the old layout, the latest n...
Norco going high pivot on models above Fluid makes a lotta sense from a company standpoint. Product differentiation. Fluid gets the old layout, the latest n greatest wonder bikes get the high pivot treatment.
I've seen and ridden the new Norcos and these are legit. They are proper good bikes.
Color my interest piqued. I felt the same about a friend's Optic. I think Norco has done a lot of good homework when it comes to fit and function over the last 4 years.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if you are right on the edge (i.e. 500# spring) you might end up in between instead of in the sweet spot of the tune. Not to mention that it doesn't appear to be frame specific any longer. Of course, I don't have all info only what I see at that link, so who knows.
For the same money, I'd still choose an Avy tuned Bomber CR personally. (I did and have one on order)
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if...
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if you are right on the edge (i.e. 500# spring) you might end up in between instead of in the sweet spot of the tune. Not to mention that it doesn't appear to be frame specific any longer. Of course, I don't have all info only what I see at that link, so who knows.
For the same money, I'd still choose an Avy tuned Bomber CR personally. (I did and have one on order)
the one thing this has over an avy tuned shock is the user adjustable stroke. 5mm isn't a lot, but its something.
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if...
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if you are right on the edge (i.e. 500# spring) you might end up in between instead of in the sweet spot of the tune. Not to mention that it doesn't appear to be frame specific any longer. Of course, I don't have all info only what I see at that link, so who knows.
For the same money, I'd still choose an Avy tuned Bomber CR personally. (I did and have one on order)
the one thing this has over an avy tuned shock is the user adjustable stroke. 5mm isn't a lot, but its something.
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess with HBO though, I know the EXT should be rebuilt to adjust HBO if you change stroke.
Also HBO. Usefulness depends on the bike, but in the right use case it's really nice to have.
It's not adjustable however and Avy accomplishes the same thing using custom shaped & density bumpers for your specific application. Well except the Avy solution is better because the bumper has a rebound effect consistent with the amount of damping it provides, unlike hydraulic bottom out.
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if...
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if you are right on the edge (i.e. 500# spring) you might end up in between instead of in the sweet spot of the tune. Not to mention that it doesn't appear to be frame specific any longer. Of course, I don't have all info only what I see at that link, so who knows.
For the same money, I'd still choose an Avy tuned Bomber CR personally. (I did and have one on order)
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess...
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess with HBO though, I know the EXT should be rebuilt to adjust HBO if you change stroke.
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy to the best of my knowledge.
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess...
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess with HBO though, I know the EXT should be rebuilt to adjust HBO if you change stroke.
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy...
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy to the best of my knowledge.
On the Bomber (like pre-21 DHX2's) you'd just have to clamp the shaft, unscrew the rebound eyelet, insert spacer, and reinstalls eyelet. User adjustable as long as you have the right tools
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess...
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess with HBO though, I know the EXT should be rebuilt to adjust HBO if you change stroke.
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy...
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy to the best of my knowledge.
Yeah IDK what Push's solution is but newer DHX2's are pretty easy with the 2-piece spacer - https://www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike&id=1100
On the Bomber (like pre-21 DHX2's) you'd just have...
On the Bomber (like pre-21 DHX2's) you'd just have to clamp the shaft, unscrew the rebound eyelet, insert spacer, and reinstalls eyelet. User adjustable as long as you have the right tools
Just looked at the full article, it's pretty much just like the newer DHX2's only on the eyelet end instead of the shock body. So a bit easier than the Bomber, and no need for shaft clamps.
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess...
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess with HBO though, I know the EXT should be rebuilt to adjust HBO if you change stroke.
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy...
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy to the best of my knowledge.
Yeah IDK what Push's solution is but newer DHX2's are pretty easy with the 2-piece spacer - https://www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike&id=1100
On the Bomber (like pre-21 DHX2's) you'd just have...
On the Bomber (like pre-21 DHX2's) you'd just have to clamp the shaft, unscrew the rebound eyelet, insert spacer, and reinstalls eyelet. User adjustable as long as you have the right tools
avy no longer offers the SSD modification for the dh/x2s that have the externally adjustable stroke via the spacer/plate. the sv8 has a similar adjustment for stroke, but the spacers screw in under the bottom out bumper instead of the main shock body
It's not adjustable however and Avy accomplishes the same thing using custom shaped & density bumpers for your specific application. Well except the Avy solution is...
It's not adjustable however and Avy accomplishes the same thing using custom shaped & density bumpers for your specific application. Well except the Avy solution is better because the bumper has a rebound effect consistent with the amount of damping it provides, unlike hydraulic bottom out.
Is the rebound statement part your own theory or something you can back up? Because common theory of HBO is pretty clear in that it offers added rebound damping in the same part of the travel where it ads compression damping(it takes force to disengage cone from the cup), which is considered nice bonus when you get that deep into stroke.
It's not adjustable however and Avy accomplishes the same thing using custom shaped & density bumpers for your specific application. Well except the Avy solution is...
It's not adjustable however and Avy accomplishes the same thing using custom shaped & density bumpers for your specific application. Well except the Avy solution is better because the bumper has a rebound effect consistent with the amount of damping it provides, unlike hydraulic bottom out.
I've owned a couple of Avy tuned shocks as well as the current Super Deluxe with HBO. With HBO you don't need to alter rebound since the HBO only kicks in during compression and doesn't add any spring energy. HBO feels smoother on large drops when you max out travel - like you're landing on a pillow; however as you point out the HBO on the Push is non-adjustable, so how well it will work on any given bike is unknown.
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if...
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if you are right on the edge (i.e. 500# spring) you might end up in between instead of in the sweet spot of the tune. Not to mention that it doesn't appear to be frame specific any longer. Of course, I don't have all info only what I see at that link, so who knows.
For the same money, I'd still choose an Avy tuned Bomber CR personally. (I did and have one on order)
I'm sure there is a better thread for this 'discussion' but 'e-bikes' already have a name that clearly differentiates them from 'bikes' so there is no...
I'm sure there is a better thread for this 'discussion' but 'e-bikes' already have a name that clearly differentiates them from 'bikes' so there is no need to rename 'bikes' in any way or form.
I've been calling regular bikes "Naturally asperated" for a couple years but it hasn't caught on yet.
The naming convention was determined decades ago. Motorized pedal bikes were called mopeds, full human powered bicycles have and always will be bicycles.
The naming convention was determined decades ago. Motorized pedal bikes were called mopeds, full human powered bicycles have and always will be bicycles.
Please can we just get on with it?
If you want to discuss the differences in bicycles and motorbikes please do that somewhere else.
The naming convention was determined decades ago. Motorized pedal bikes were called mopeds, full human powered bicycles have and always will be bicycles.
This is the most logical thinking that I have seen in the e-bike vs bike naming debate. I'm 100% on board with this.
E-Moped or E-Ped are the only terms I am accepting at this point. Who's with me? lol
The naming convention was determined decades ago. Motorized pedal bikes were called mopeds, full human powered bicycles have and always will be bicycles.
The naming convention was determined decades ago. Motorized pedal bikes were called mopeds, full human powered bicycles have and always will be bicycles.
Color my interest piqued. I felt the same about a friend's Optic. I think Norco has done a lot of good homework when it comes to fit and function over the last 4 years.
They took it down; someone's getting a talking to rn...
Dec 7th is going to bring some new potions to the witchcraft
I really hoping HIGH expectations
they're watching us.
also, no screenshot?
Only got this; spring rates for 126lb rider.
From memory it's $850 for the shock assembly only, spring and hardware are extra. You can use springs from other manufacturers.
Edit: Here's the slug:
https://www.unsprung.com.sg/collections/push-industries/products/sv8
Here it is.
up on their site now too:
https://www.pushindustries.com/products/sveight
I might be blind but I'm not seeing what sizes are offered?
This fits a really nice spot in the market.
It seems to only have 2 tunes available, A or B based on spring rate. And if you are right on the edge (i.e. 500# spring) you might end up in between instead of in the sweet spot of the tune. Not to mention that it doesn't appear to be frame specific any longer. Of course, I don't have all info only what I see at that link, so who knows.
For the same money, I'd still choose an Avy tuned Bomber CR personally. (I did and have one on order)
The Push shock just hit PB as well.
and here at 9am pst, too https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/push-industries-releases-al…
the one thing this has over an avy tuned shock is the user adjustable stroke. 5mm isn't a lot, but its something.
That's not really unique though is it? It's just a spacer behind the bottom out bumper unless you're also changing eye-to-eye. Seems like it would mess with HBO though, I know the EXT should be rebuilt to adjust HBO if you change stroke.
Also HBO. Usefulness depends on the bike, but in the right use case it's really nice to have.
It's not adjustable however and Avy accomplishes the same thing using custom shaped & density bumpers for your specific application. Well except the Avy solution is better because the bumper has a rebound effect consistent with the amount of damping it provides, unlike hydraulic bottom out.
didn't mean to infer that it was unique, but that it's not a feature available on any of the shocks that can be tuned by Avy to the best of my knowledge.
Yeah IDK what Push's solution is but newer DHX2's are pretty easy with the 2-piece spacer - https://www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike&id=1100
On the Bomber (like pre-21 DHX2's) you'd just have to clamp the shaft, unscrew the rebound eyelet, insert spacer, and reinstalls eyelet. User adjustable as long as you have the right tools
Just looked at the full article, it's pretty much just like the newer DHX2's only on the eyelet end instead of the shock body. So a bit easier than the Bomber, and no need for shaft clamps.
avy no longer offers the SSD modification for the dh/x2s that have the externally adjustable stroke via the spacer/plate. the sv8 has a similar adjustment for stroke, but the spacers screw in under the bottom out bumper instead of the main shock body
Is the rebound statement part your own theory or something you can back up? Because common theory of HBO is pretty clear in that it offers added rebound damping in the same part of the travel where it ads compression damping(it takes force to disengage cone from the cup), which is considered nice bonus when you get that deep into stroke.
I've owned a couple of Avy tuned shocks as well as the current Super Deluxe with HBO. With HBO you don't need to alter rebound since the HBO only kicks in during compression and doesn't add any spring energy. HBO feels smoother on large drops when you max out travel - like you're landing on a pillow; however as you point out the HBO on the Push is non-adjustable, so how well it will work on any given bike is unknown.
The naming convention was determined decades ago. Motorized pedal bikes were called mopeds, full human powered bicycles have and always will be bicycles.
Please can we just get on with it?
If you want to discuss the differences in bicycles and motorbikes please do that somewhere else.
This is the most logical thinking that I have seen in the e-bike vs bike naming debate. I'm 100% on board with this.
E-Moped or E-Ped are the only terms I am accepting at this point. Who's with me? lol
This is the bike industry, logic was never part of the equation
I just call them motorcycles😂
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