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10/27/2023 9:21pm
bizutch wrote:
Well, I would expect a tech article on a fork to come out for it's debut. If not, it would come out listed as a "Long...

Well, I would expect a tech article on a fork to come out for it's debut.
If not, it would come out listed as a "Long Term Review".

The fork is literally out of production.  Personally, I think PB just had a quota, Seb had an old ass article in his archive & submitted to meet the quota for the day.  

If Vital published a "review" of a 2 year old out of production fork, no way in hell would I respect that with some definitive prefaces for doing it.

Yeah this was super bizarre, although not that surprising given the platform. The review was pretty accurate but terrible timing when the new version has already been launched and addresses every one of those shortcomings! The problem is people are going to skim the article and think it’s referring to the new one, so it’s straight up terrible journalism. I don’t strictly mind reviews calling out a bad product, but if it’s not even remotely current then it’s either lazy content creation or they have an agenda 

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10/28/2023 12:47pm
AndehM wrote:
MTB forums/comments:  Reviewers are industry schills, they never write anything bad about any products.  Everyone knows that <product x> sucks/is unrideable/will fail and won't get warranty...

MTB forums/comments:  Reviewers are industry schills, they never write anything bad about any products.  Everyone knows that <product x> sucks/is unrideable/will fail and won't get warranty support.

Also MTB forums/comments:  This reviewer wrote something critical about a product I happen to like, they must be biased against that company.  Total hatchet job man!

bizutch wrote:
Well, I would expect a tech article on a fork to come out for it's debut. If not, it would come out listed as a "Long...

Well, I would expect a tech article on a fork to come out for it's debut.
If not, it would come out listed as a "Long Term Review".

The fork is literally out of production.  Personally, I think PB just had a quota, Seb had an old ass article in his archive & submitted to meet the quota for the day.  

If Vital published a "review" of a 2 year old out of production fork, no way in hell would I respect that with some definitive prefaces for doing it.

It might be out of production but it’s still for sale all over the internet, at full retail price, including on DVO’s own website, so there’s that. 

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10/28/2023 2:56pm

Did you actually click to see if it was available??  When I click on it it says out of stock.  You just learning how to internet??

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10/28/2023 3:17pm

Did you actually click to see if it was available??  When I click on it it says out of stock.  You just learning how to internet??

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10/28/2023 3:20pm

Did you actually click to see if it was available??  When I click on it it says out of stock.  You just learning how to internet??

Gee I don’t know bro are you learning how to internet? They have 29” forks in stock in every travel and color except black 160 and 170. 27.5 front wheels don’t count because those are for peasants.IMG 1417

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10/28/2023 3:20pm

Did you actually click to see if it was available??  When I click on it it says out of stock.  You just learning how to internet??

You sure about that? Maybe you might want to double check...

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10/28/2023 3:41pm

Welp, I am the newb and just learning how to internet.  When I clicked and looked it was all 27.5" and I didn't scroll thru all the options...  I'll just keep my mouth shut and go back to PB.  My apologies and as you were.

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10/28/2023 4:14pm
Welp, I am the newb and just learning how to internet.  When I clicked and looked it was all 27.5" and I didn't scroll thru all...

Welp, I am the newb and just learning how to internet.  When I clicked and looked it was all 27.5" and I didn't scroll thru all the options...  I'll just keep my mouth shut and go back to PB.  My apologies and as you were.

LOL don’t be so hard on yourself. 

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10/29/2023 12:06pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cy6qQxlM3kF/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== New Helm I guess?
ahleic09 wrote:

I’ve seen some folks hiding what looks like a new shock from CC

If it's as ugly as the Kitsuma, then i'd rather they keep it hidden.

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10/29/2023 3:56pm
Let's be honest, DVO stuff is just hot garbage, if they no longer existed tomorrow no one would miss them. For the last 3 years they...

Let's be honest, DVO stuff is just hot garbage, if they no longer existed tomorrow no one would miss them. For the last 3 years they were saying no one needed a 38mm stanchioned fork, now apparently everyone needs one.

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Had a DVO fork and shock and both broke. Within months the shock blew up and the fork wore the anodizing off the stanchions. Plus, it's...

Had a DVO fork and shock and both broke. Within months the shock blew up and the fork wore the anodizing off the stanchions.

Plus, it's basically impossible to get warranty service in Europe because their distributor is literally useless.

Suffice to say those were the last DVO products I'll buy.

The best part is how half the rebuild process isn’t actually documented. Lmao 

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10/30/2023 8:27am Edited Date/Time 10/30/2023 8:32am

i'm seeing an add banner for fox live valve on this site and the shock doesn' t look similar since the live valve i know uses cables... did someone jump the gun?

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10/30/2023 10:44am
krabo83 wrote:
i'm seeing an add banner for fox live valve on this site and the shock doesn' t look similar since the live valve i know uses...

i'm seeing an add banner for fox live valve on this site and the shock doesn' t look similar since the live valve i know uses cables... did someone jump the gun?

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That is the current live shock. See where the wire plugs in where the yellow arrow is. Next version that is in RAD phase looks considerably different image-20231030104434-2

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10/30/2023 5:12pm Edited Date/Time 10/30/2023 5:30pm

Haven’t seen this posted anywhere yet, but I came across it on Instagram. Looks like ND Tuned is prototyping a 38mm stanchion fork, with a less than conventional construction of the lowers as well? Anyone know any details?

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10/31/2023 1:18am

Glued together lowers. Not uncommon. Rock shox did that in the development phase of the Totem I think. 

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10/31/2023 4:26am

Picture from the other site, review of the Trek Slash. Anyone know what these lights are on the non drive side AXS dropper?

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10/31/2023 6:34am

Looks like it's just PB stickers that they put on AXS batteries, go check the video again you'll see the same sticker on the derailleur.

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10/31/2023 8:16am
Rick26 wrote:
Looks like it's just PB stickers that they put on AXS batteries, go check the video again you'll see the same sticker on the derailleur.

Looks like it's just PB stickers that they put on AXS batteries, go check the video again you'll see the same sticker on the derailleur.

Argh, thanks. Was really hoping this was the signal for a 200mm AXS dropper.

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10/31/2023 8:49am
Kapolczer wrote:
Haven’t seen this posted anywhere yet, but I came across it on Instagram. Looks like ND Tuned is prototyping a 38mm stanchion fork, with a less...

Haven’t seen this posted anywhere yet, but I came across it on Instagram. Looks like ND Tuned is prototyping a 38mm stanchion fork, with a less than conventional construction of the lowers as well? Anyone know any details?

IMG 7129.jpeg?VersionId=5BGuJ2UzhKJmtgcQNHE0JQ35

This reminds me of this Japanese fork I had a long time back. I am trying to remember the name of it. It was total air and adjustable from 160mm to 100mm externally. It was all milled out just like this one and it rode really smooth. If I can remember the name or find a photo I'll post it up

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10/31/2023 9:46am
One Ghost wrote:
This reminds me of this Japanese fork I had a long time back. I am trying to remember the name of it. It was total air...

This reminds me of this Japanese fork I had a long time back. I am trying to remember the name of it. It was total air and adjustable from 160mm to 100mm externally. It was all milled out just like this one and it rode really smooth. If I can remember the name or find a photo I'll post it up

Kowa?

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10/31/2023 9:49am
Primoz wrote:

Glued together lowers. Not uncommon. Rock shox did that in the development phase of the Totem I think. 

Yes that proto was sitting on display at the old building.  Aluminum 3 piece lowers glued together.  Could be a way to manufacture lower quantities?  


Lots cheaper and faster than prototyping with a casting tool.

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10/31/2023 9:55am
One Ghost wrote:
This reminds me of this Japanese fork I had a long time back. I am trying to remember the name of it. It was total air...

This reminds me of this Japanese fork I had a long time back. I am trying to remember the name of it. It was total air and adjustable from 160mm to 100mm externally. It was all milled out just like this one and it rode really smooth. If I can remember the name or find a photo I'll post it up

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Kowa?

YES! that's it!!

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10/31/2023 10:06am

FWIW, that ND Tuned fork not only looks glued together, but the arch with seal seats look 3D printed.

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10/31/2023 10:07am Edited Date/Time 10/31/2023 10:08am
Primoz wrote:

Glued together lowers. Not uncommon. Rock shox did that in the development phase of the Totem I think. 

Dave_Camp wrote:
Yes that proto was sitting on display at the old building.  Aluminum 3 piece lowers glued together.  Could be a way to manufacture lower quantities?  ...

Yes that proto was sitting on display at the old building.  Aluminum 3 piece lowers glued together.  Could be a way to manufacture lower quantities?  


Lots cheaper and faster than prototyping with a casting tool.

Intend screw the arch onto the lowers from the inside on the Blackline Ebonite fork from what I managed to gather. The dropouts are also an add-on to the outers tubes, so the outers themselves are probably turned from a bar/tube stock.

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10/31/2023 3:04pm

Has anyone heard anything about Conti releasing a soft or super-soft tire w/ their trail casing? @iceman2058 mentioned it in the comments here (from Eurobike) it's been crickets since then.

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