Prototype 2015 Specialized Demo?

satelliteau
Edited Date/Time 8/18/2014 12:09pm
Say hello to the new full carbon Demo! New suspension design with rearward axle path and concentric bottom bracket pivot point. Carbon chain stays + seat stays, with asymmetric seat tube wrapping around the Ohlins shock. Internal cable routing. Snapped a few days ago!





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bjenson 7/10/2014 6:15pm
7/10/2014 6:15pm
whose bike is that? looks like a carbon version of this one from last year:





satelliteau 7/11/2014 12:35am
7/11/2014 12:35am
Yup it's the same frame geometry and suspension setup as the earlier photos taken last year. They do all of the geometry and suspension development in alloy. Once the carbon molds are produced they are usually very close to production.

This is the first image that shows Demo markings - there was no confirmation that the earlier photos were of a Demo.

It looks like there is green paint around the Ohlins shock and near one of the pivot points. This may in fact be a full production frame with factory paint, obfuscated with a black coating or laminate (notice the ripples near the demo logo in the second pic).
Christian Peper 7/11/2014 10:44am
7/11/2014 10:44am Edited Date/Time 7/11/2014 10:45am
I'm surprised no one mentioned the cracked back rim. Big crack towards the bottomSad in the first picture.
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kev.1n 7/13/2014 11:02am
7/13/2014 11:02am
that sir, is a dent.


yo give some credit to the KGB spies that brought you guys these mystery photos haha
Andrew_Patterson 7/14/2014 12:59pm
7/14/2014 12:59pm
In the 4th shot, looking from the rear of the bike it appears that the seat tube is only supported from the right side. There's obviously something about the structure around the shock that they're trying to keep hidden in the prototype.

I'm surprised to see them get away from the rear shock yolk, it was very effective at making the bike extra plush in the first part of the travel. Curious to see what the final production model will look like. This would be the first major rework of the Demo in a number of years!
satelliteau 7/18/2014 1:42am
7/18/2014 1:42am
Higher res photo with much clearer text (click to view full size):

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scarface 7/20/2014 1:04am
7/20/2014 1:04am
So we could see the bigger wheels on that v10?
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scarface 7/20/2014 9:16am
7/20/2014 9:16am
Snoop-doggy-snoop-snoop has been snoopin' round and he gone dug up moar spy shots of the new 27.5 V10:



jasonvelocity 7/21/2014 12:14pm
7/21/2014 12:14pm
jasonvelocity wrote:
I think the 2015 Murder Demo wins. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/21/1499/s1200_2015_specialized_demo_downhill_mountain_bike01_1.jpg[/img]
I think the 2015 Murder Demo wins.



Never mind, just noticed the Orange frame behind it!



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CombatMutt 7/29/2014 9:05am
7/29/2014 9:05am
satelliteau wrote:
Higher res photo with much clearer text (click to view full size): [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/18/1488/s1200_205523_10150260371852646_4432189_n.jpg[/img]
Higher res photo with much clearer text (click to view full size):

Any idea what "FACT" means there? Faction? Factory? Something else?
jasonvelocity 7/29/2014 9:10am
7/29/2014 9:10am
satelliteau wrote:
Higher res photo with much clearer text (click to view full size): [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/18/1488/s1200_205523_10150260371852646_4432189_n.jpg[/img]
Higher res photo with much clearer text (click to view full size):

CombatMutt wrote:
Any idea what "FACT" means there? Faction? Factory? Something else?
Functional Advanced Composite Technology

http://www.specialized.com/bc/microsite/fact/fabrication.html
jasonvelocity 7/29/2014 10:19am
7/29/2014 10:19am
onenerdykid* wrote:
New pic of seeming finished marketing shot of the 650b Carbon Demo: [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/29/1504/s1200_2015_Carbon_Specialized_650B_Demo.jpg[/img] link to write-up over at Bike Rumor http://www.bikerumor.com/2014/07/28/spy-shots-new-prototype-specialized-downhill-bikes-found-in-wild/
New pic of seeming finished marketing shot of the 650b Carbon Demo:


link to write-up over at Bike Rumor
http://www.bikerumor.com/2014/07/28/spy-shots-new-prototype-specialized…

Same photo, but I adjusted the levels.



jasonvelocity 7/29/2014 10:19am
7/29/2014 10:19am Edited Date/Time 7/29/2014 10:21am
Cropped overlay (50% opacity)

Depending on sag, it would appear the BB height is a bit higher.




jasonvelocity 7/29/2014 10:31am
7/29/2014 10:31am Edited Date/Time 7/29/2014 11:16am
If you are not interested in the shock that comes with the bike, they give you enough space to install other options. I personally have the 2013 carbon Demo, and the shock I wanted to run would not fit.



Additionally, having an open side lets me keep the bike cleaner.
satelliteau 7/29/2014 11:01pm
7/29/2014 11:01pm


The 2015 is a lot longer than the 2014 models... and no more small size. A mistake IMO:

- plenty of people buy carbon demos and ride tighter technical tracks / park
- large parts of the world have much shorter average rider heights
- women and juniors tend to go the smaller sizes

I was super pumped about getting the 2015 model. Not too sure about that now having seen the geometry =/

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CombatMutt 7/30/2014 2:58am
7/30/2014 2:58am
satelliteau wrote:
Higher res photo with much clearer text (click to view full size): [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/18/1488/s1200_205523_10150260371852646_4432189_n.jpg[/img]
Higher res photo with much clearer text (click to view full size):

CombatMutt wrote:
Any idea what "FACT" means there? Faction? Factory? Something else?
jasonvelocity wrote:
Functional Advanced Composite Technology

http://www.specialized.com/bc/microsite/fact/fabrication.html
Hey, thanks!
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CombatMutt 7/30/2014 3:05am
7/30/2014 3:05am
Uh, half that bike is missing........

I like the new rear end, it seems much cleaner.
Deadwithoutdirt 7/30/2014 12:27pm
7/30/2014 12:27pm
jasonvelocity wrote:
Cropped overlay (50% opacity) Depending on sag, it would appear the BB height is a bit higher. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/29/1506/s1200_2015_Carbon_Specialized_650B_Demo.jpg[/img]
Cropped overlay (50% opacity)

Depending on sag, it would appear the BB height is a bit higher.




Well I'm guessing it might be because of the 650b wheels
jasonvelocity 7/30/2014 12:41pm
7/30/2014 12:41pm
jasonvelocity wrote:
Cropped overlay (50% opacity) Depending on sag, it would appear the BB height is a bit higher. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/29/1506/s1200_2015_Carbon_Specialized_650B_Demo.jpg[/img]
Cropped overlay (50% opacity)

Depending on sag, it would appear the BB height is a bit higher.




Deadwithoutdirt wrote:
Well I'm guessing it might be because of the 650b wheels
I created the overlay using one of the aluminum 2015 Demos, which is 650b. I'm not disagreeing, I just don't think that is a factor.
onenerdykid* 7/30/2014 11:53pm
7/30/2014 11:53pm
satelliteau wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2014/07/29/1511/s1200_2015_Sizing.jpg[/img] The 2015 is a lot longer than the 2014 models... and no more small size. A mistake IMO: - plenty of people buy carbon demos...


The 2015 is a lot longer than the 2014 models... and no more small size. A mistake IMO:

- plenty of people buy carbon demos and ride tighter technical tracks / park
- large parts of the world have much shorter average rider heights
- women and juniors tend to go the smaller sizes

I was super pumped about getting the 2015 model. Not too sure about that now having seen the geometry =/

Concerning your point about the missing Small size, even on technical steep tracks aggressive riders tend to favor a longer reach (myself included). Plus any of my friends that were over 6' felt a bit cramped on their Large Demo. I heard more complaints about riders wanting a larger size rather than people wanting a small.

But, I guess this is why they kept the "older" frame design in aluminum. Small will still be available there.

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