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Tikbalang MK2 Downhill Enduro 30

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_Lan
11/18/2020 6:44pm
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Parts

Frame
Other
Frame: Other
Rear Shock
EXT
Storia LOK 250x75
Rear Shock: EXT Storia LOK 250x75
Fork
RockShox
Boxxer 29er 200mm 46mm offset
Fork: RockShox Boxxer 29er 200mm 46mm offset
Headset
Cane Creek
Cane Creek Viscous upper/ 110 lower
Headset: Cane Creek Cane Creek Viscous upper/ 110 lower
Handlebar
Race Face
sixC 31.8mm 780mm
Handlebar: Race Face sixC 31.8mm 780mm
Stem
NS
Stem: NS
Grips
DMR
Deathgrip
Grips: DMR Deathgrip
Brakes
Shimano
XTR Quad Piston
Brakes: Shimano XTR Quad Piston
Shifters
Shimano
XTR 12 speed
Shifters: Shimano XTR 12 speed
Rear Derailleur
Shimano
XTR 12 speed
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR 12 speed
Chainguide
Other
3d printed
Chainguide: Other 3d printed
Cranks
Race Face
SixC 165mm
Cranks: Race Face SixC 165mm
Chainrings / Sprocket
Race Face
30T
Chainrings / Sprocket: Race Face 30T
Bottom Bracket
e*thirteen
30mm BSA
Bottom Bracket: e*thirteen 30mm BSA
Chain
Shimano
XTR 12 speed
Chain: Shimano XTR 12 speed
Cassette / Rear Cog
Other
China 9-50T
Cassette / Rear Cog: Other China 9-50T
Pedals
Kona
Wahwah composite
Pedals: Kona Wahwah composite
Front Rim
Other
Ibis 942 29er
Front Rim: Other Ibis 942 29er
Rear Rim
Other
Ibis 942 29er
Rear Rim: Other Ibis 942 29er
Hubs
SRAM
X0 DH 157mm
Hubs: SRAM X0 DH 157mm
Spokes
Other
Pillar triple butted
Spokes: Other Pillar triple butted
Front Tire
Maxxis
Assegai 29x2.5WT Maxxgrip DH Casing
Front Tire: Maxxis Assegai 29x2.5WT Maxxgrip DH Casing
Rear Tire
Maxxis
Assegai 29x2.5WT Maxxgrip DH Casing
Rear Tire: Maxxis Assegai 29x2.5WT Maxxgrip DH Casing
Saddle
Fabric
Saddle: Fabric
General Info

General Info

Model Year
2021
Model Year:
2021
Riding Type
Downhill
Riding Type:
Downhill
Weight
36 lb 13.1 oz (16700 g)
Weight: 36 lb 13.1 oz (16700 g)
Additional Info

Designed this bike during the lockdown.

Geometry is about the same as the first one.

Has multiple shock mount positions to change the leverage curve. Maybe I can find a sweet spot for the EXT Storia before sending it back for a retune.

Tried saving a little bit of weight this time while also changing the bearings to the larger 6903s. I'm not an overly aggressive rider so hopefully the bike will be strong enough.

Dual bottle cage mount don't get in the way of pedaling.

The mounts on the top tube are for a frame and feed bag but is the standard bottle cage spacing so I can put lots of water bottles if so desired. It's a downhill bike packing bike lol.

Haven't actually ridden the bike. Will update once I do.

Additional Info:

Designed this bike during the lockdown.

Geometry is about the same as the first one.

Has multiple shock mount positions to change the leverage curve. Maybe I can find a sweet spot for the EXT Storia before sending it back for a retune.

Tried saving a little bit of weight this time while also changing the bearings to the larger 6903s. I'm not an overly aggressive rider so hopefully the bike will be strong enough.

Dual bottle cage mount don't get in the way of pedaling.

The mounts on the top tube are for a frame and feed bag but is the standard bottle cage spacing so I can put lots of water bottles if so desired. It's a downhill bike packing bike lol.

Haven't actually ridden the bike. Will update once I do.
_Lan
11/18/2020 6:44pm
4533 of 17496
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stiingya
4 years ago
looks like a trials bike with a DH fork...

I had no idea a patent prevented you from making something for personal use. Interesting...
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_Lan
4 years ago
I was under that impression too. But the message I received seems to imply that legal action can be taken by the patent owner
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Primoz
4 years ago
In case you wanted to produce it. Which means not personal use. I guess you could also give it away as x ‰ of royalties on 0 USD is still 0.
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_Lan
4 years ago
Just a heads up to my fellow hobbyists.

I received this message from hmcleay

Hi Lan,
Congratulations on your latest frame build. That's super impressive; the welds look AMAZING!
I just wanted to touch base with you to let you know that having the idler pulley mounted on that separate link like that would technically infringe on some patents that I have. You've probably come across my 'i-track suspension' technology already (especially since it shows my logo in the Linkage software too).
Don't worry, I'm not going to get 'legal' on you. I'm totally fine with people experimenting with it for personal use.

However, if you did intend to start making frames like this for sale, then we would need to discuss a licensing agreement.

How long was your lockdown?! Super impressive to pull this all together in a few months (?). What country are you in?

Looking forward to your ride report.

Cheers,
Hugh McLeay
i-Track Suspension

This recalls to mind the incident where Kavenz Cycles had to change their idler location from being on the chainstay to being concentric to the lower pivot.

I wonder if putting the idler on the main frame is patented. Anyone knows?
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gearhead313
4 years ago
Sooo how did forbidden and deviate get past this? Did they have to make a deal with Hugh? ...asking for another high pivot friend
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literally
4 years ago
very nice bike! question : what exactly does the seatstay pivot accomplish along with with the high main pivot and lower mini link?
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_Lan
4 years ago
Add to that list the new Commencal Supreme DH, Devinci Wilson prototype and the Norco prototype as well. I'm also curious to know.
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_Lan
4 years ago
without the seatstay pivot the rear triangle will bind under suspension travel. Some 100mm travel bikes can get away with relying on the flex of material used but I don't think 210mm can.
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gearhead313
4 years ago
It seems he does require a link to be present to carry the idler to it's intended position. I've never looked at that patent before, really interesting! So it would seem having the idler married to the swing arm avoids infringement...
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hamncheez2003
4 years ago
Titanium is the best looking frame material, change my mind.

@_Lan You're not worried about your fabricator selling your design on aliexpress?
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_Lan
4 years ago
I'd rather they not, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

I'm all for seeing bikes get developed further, there's nothing particularly unique to the way I located the pivots. Maybe for the look of the bike you can say it's uniquely mine but then again I did get inspiration from other bikes like the Norco Aurum HSP and the Rocky mountain slayer.
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TheShortestCharles
4 years ago
I was wondering the same thing as well, if I had to guess it's to lower brake jack and improve suspension response under braking (similar to a Trek ABP or Devinci/Salsa Split Pivot bike). The overall suspension design looks similar to the Antidote Darkmatter, which also has a semi-floating brake to achieve the same goal, but the Antidote uses a linkage around the BB instead of a separate pivot. It's basically a Horst-link suspension but flipped upside down to accommodate the high pivot placement.
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_Lan
4 years ago
Yeah that's just it a flipped horst link. It's to lower the anti-rise values.

Yeah, similar to the Devinci Wilson and Antidote Darkmatter but the rocker link on mine doesn't pivot around the BB
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_Lan
4 years ago
Thanks. It looks even better in person according to some mates.


Only brushed a few times while sprinting otherwise it's like they're not there
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_Lan
4 years ago
Cool, some of us want that downhill bike experience but don't always have uplift where we ride. Bike brands should realize this.
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LLLLL
4 years ago
Just file a patent stating a different use case for the pully in the same location. 👍
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_Lan
4 years ago
I just realized the split pivot design of the Devinci means it's also a swingarm not a link
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nwtoney55@gmail.com
4 years ago
I too am a downduro kind of guy. I have made an old devinci wilson into a downduro. I call it Frankenvinci Wilsonstein.
Dropper post, 11-36 cassette, 28t chainring. Made it into a 27.5f 26r mullet. I'm 5'5" so 26 inch wheels work well for me. No way to attach a bottle though
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thomas1965
4 years ago
too beautiful a bike to pick any one thing to compliment, but do you not hit your knees on the bottle cages? cause if not I might have to try that positioning on my bike, I could use more water...

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