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Vital MTB's Transition Patrol Carbon Test Bike 49

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bturman
2/3/2019 8:34am
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FOX
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Maxxis
Parts
Brand
Model
Additional info

Parts

Frame
Transition
Patrol Carbon
160mm Travel // 27.5-Inch Wheels // Speed Balanced Geometry // 64˚ Head Angle // 77.1˚ Effective Seat Angle // Size Medium with 450mm Reach // Sagebrush Gray
Frame: Transition Patrol Carbon. Misc: 160mm Travel // 27.5-Inch Wheels // Speed Balanced Geometry // 64˚ Head Angle // 77.1˚ Effective Seat Angle // Size Medium with 450mm Reach // Sagebrush Gray
Rear Shock
FOX
DPX2 Performance Elite
0.6 Cubic Inch Volume Spacer
Rear Shock: FOX DPX2 Performance Elite. Misc: 0.6 Cubic Inch Volume Spacer
Fork
RockShox
Lyrik RCT3
170mm Travel // Short 37mm Offset // 2 Bottomless Tokens
Fork: RockShox Lyrik RCT3. Misc: 170mm Travel // Short 37mm Offset // 2 Bottomless Tokens
Headset
Cane Creek
40 Series
Zero Stack 44/56mm
Headset: Cane Creek 40 Series. Misc: Zero Stack 44/56mm
Handlebar
Fasst
Flexx Enduro
Trimmed to 775mm Wide // 25mm Rise // 8x5˚ Sweep // Carbon Fiber, 7075 Aluminum and Titanium // Medium Compression Elastomers // Hard Rebound Elastomers
Handlebar: Fasst Flexx Enduro. Misc: Trimmed to 775mm Wide // 25mm Rise // 8x5˚ Sweep // Carbon Fiber, 7075 Aluminum and Titanium // Medium Compression Elastomers // Hard Rebound Elastomers
Stem
Easton
Havoc
35mm Length // 31.8mm Diameter
Stem: Easton Havoc. Misc: 35mm Length // 31.8mm Diameter
Grips
ODI
Long Neck
Lock-Ons // 143mm Length
Grips: ODI Long Neck. Misc: Lock-Ons // 143mm Length
Brakes
SRAM
Code RSC
200mm Front // 180mm Rear
Brakes: SRAM Code RSC. Misc: 200mm Front // 180mm Rear
Shifters
SRAM
X01 Eagle
12-Speed
Shifters: SRAM X01 Eagle. Misc: 12-Speed
Rear Derailleur
SRAM
X01 Eagle
Rear Derailleur: SRAM X01 Eagle
Chainguide
e*thirteen
TRS Plus
Bash Only
Chainguide: e*thirteen TRS Plus. Misc: Bash Only
Cranks
Cane Creek
eeWings
Titanium // 170mm Length
Cranks: Cane Creek eeWings. Misc: Titanium // 170mm Length
Chainrings / Sprocket
SRAM
Eagle X-Sync 2
32-Tooth
Chainrings / Sprocket: SRAM Eagle X-Sync 2. Misc: 32-Tooth
Bottom Bracket
Race Face
Cinch
Threaded
Bottom Bracket: Race Face Cinch. Misc: Threaded
Chain
SRAM
X01 Eagle
Chain: SRAM X01 Eagle
Cassette / Rear Cog
SRAM
X01 Eagle
10-50 Tooth
Cassette / Rear Cog: SRAM X01 Eagle. Misc: 10-50 Tooth
Pedals
Nukeproof
Horizon Pro Sam Hill
Pedals: Nukeproof Horizon Pro Sam Hill
Front Rim
Crank Brothers
Synthesis E 11
31.5mm Internal Width
Front Rim: Crank Brothers Synthesis E 11. Misc: 31.5mm Internal Width
Rear Rim
Crank Brothers
Synthesis E 11
29.5mm Internal Width
Rear Rim: Crank Brothers Synthesis E 11. Misc: 29.5mm Internal Width
Hubs
Crank Brothers
Synthesis 11
Project 321 Internals // 144 Points of Engagement
Hubs: Crank Brothers Synthesis 11. Misc: Project 321 Internals // 144 Points of Engagement
Spokes
Sapim
CX-Ray & CX Sprint
14mm Sapim Polyax Brass Nipples
Spokes: Sapim CX-Ray & CX Sprint. Misc: 14mm Sapim Polyax Brass Nipples
Front Tire
Maxxis
Minion DHF WT
2.5-Inch // EXO Casing // 3C
Front Tire: Maxxis Minion DHF WT. Misc: 2.5-Inch // EXO Casing // 3C
Rear Tire
Maxxis
Aggressor
2.3-Inch // Double Down Casing
Rear Tire: Maxxis Aggressor. Misc: 2.3-Inch // Double Down Casing
Saddle
Specialized
Henge Expert
Titanium Rails // 143mm
Saddle: Specialized Henge Expert. Misc: Titanium Rails // 143mm
Seatpost
RockShox
Reverb Stealth B1
150mm Travel // 1X Remote
Seatpost: RockShox Reverb Stealth B1. Misc: 150mm Travel // 1X Remote
General Info

General Info

Model Year
2019
Model Year:
2019
Riding Type
Trail / All-Mountain
Riding Type:
Trail / All-Mountain
Weight
32 lb 3 oz (14600 g)
Weight: 32 lb 3 oz (14600 g)
Additional Info

Introducing Vital's latest custom build! This rippin' Transition Patrol is serving as Brandon Turman's test bed for various component reviews. Stay tuned...

Additional Info:

Introducing Vital's latest custom build! This rippin' Transition Patrol is serving as Brandon Turman's test bed for various component reviews. Stay tuned...
bturman
2/3/2019 8:34am
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paulo.b.santos.7
5 years ago
@bturman are you still riding the Patrol? don´t you feel that the 0.6 spacer gives a harsher ride? have you tried without spacers and more air?
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bturman
5 years ago
Yes, I am still riding this bike as a platform for component reviews.

The first new gen carbon Patrol models came with a 0.4 spacer, and Transition updated their shock tune to include a 0.6 spacer for 2019 as well as some key tweaks to the damping. I've tried both versions. With the FOX shocks installed I always found it best overall at the low end of Transition's suggested sag range.

The latest tune is a good middle of the road because it addresses one of the Patrol's shortcomings of staying a little squat out back for an extended period of time on berms and jump faces. In general, riding chunky, consistently rough stuff with a more progressive air spring can feel a bit harsher, so there's a *little* loss of performance there.

I've since moved to a RockShox Super Deluxe with a MegNeg air can, which helps keep the ass end up much better. The bike feels more balanced than ever.
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FilipK
4 years ago
After MegNeg video, we've also seen you going back to stock Fox and letting DSD play with it.
Which setup do you prefer now?
Is DSD tuning magic something that can be replicated by an official Fox service center?
Does your RS Super Deluxe have some Transition OE tune or is it aftermarket off the shelf offering?

Im looking to improve my 2019 Scouts rear suspension performance, and yes while in different travel brackets, all Transitions seem to have similar suspension quirks...

Thanks for any help! Please keep up the nerdy suspension videos.
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bturman
4 years ago
All said and done, I ended up preferring a DSD-tuned fork and the Super Deluxe with MegNeg rear. It makes the bike ride best overall. The MegNeg helps this batch of Transitions in a really positive way.
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Suns_PSD
6 years ago
Well that's a rad and no expense spared build. Good stuff.
Are these cranks any better than X01s? Can you tell a difference in flex when riding?
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bturman
6 years ago
The valve adapter is produced by Clever Standard. It has some flats in there to double as a core remover. Pretty handy. I agree that actual tubeless Schrader valves would be pretty sick.

150mm is very close to the height difference between my pedal bike in the up position and preferred DH bike saddle position. It's very rare that I'll need any additional room, even on the steepest bits.
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Thustlewhumber
6 years ago
I think my favorite part of the bike is the O-ring knocked off the shock. I own a Patrol and I know how hard it is to do that, lol.
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cgdibble
6 years ago
Damn, I can not wait for my carbon Sentinel to show up this week! That Patrol is damn good looking!
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tatchley87
6 years ago
This is one of the best looking bikes, evar.
I want to hear how those bars ride as well!
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kev.1n
6 years ago
Running that exact tire combo right now and it's killer!

Would probably be riding one of these if I didn't have the nomad, shame Rockshox doesn't have a super deluxe for this frame
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jeff.brines
6 years ago
I'm running this tire combo too! Just the 2.5 aggressor double down...with cushcore (my Sentinel is 35 pounds...)

To be honest, I'm not sure this bike is a good candidate for a coil. The Sentinel isn't, though MT is running one on his. Its pretty flat as far as progression goes. Needs an air boinger IMO.
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Allen_Gleckner
6 years ago
I was running that combo (aggressor in EXO) and liking it, but switched to a 2.3 minion in the rear and like it better. Don’t notice the rolling much except spinning it up. Thanks to @jeff.brines long chainstay sermons, i was theorizing that one reason might be that at 6’2” and on an XL Process 134 w a 426mm chainstay that i end up cornering with more input on the rear wheel and so am enjoying the extra side knob bite? Thinking I’ll run cushcore in the back next season rather than going to a DD casing.
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unskilled
6 years ago
Laser etched levers, team issue red code calipers, ride or die on the top tube? The wins the award for most kook ride ever.
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ZAKBROWN!
6 years ago
Lol, right? Turman is a better rider than most journos but SRAM giving out custom parts to media guys seems a bit lame.
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MTBrent
6 years ago
I'm legitimately intrigued by the Fasst bars. Looking forward to seeing a review.
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hbelly13
6 years ago
I am interested to how these bars may provide $300 (+/-) more performance than the best possible carbon bars out there.
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TEAMROBOT
6 years ago
"Ride or die" on the top tube, but ROBOTS are curious if Turman's killed anyone yet. Doubtful.
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ryan.egusquiza
6 years ago
Looks like the casing on that rear tire is getting destroyed. What pressure are you running? Looks like a combo of low pressure and hard packed. I am running the same bike, same rear tire in WT 2.4 and use a Cush Core. After 10 solid days my tire isn't hacked like yours.
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neologisticzand
6 years ago
Very info-filled bike check...curious if the mastic tape on the chainstays helps with the noise. Been tempted to try that myself. Maybe I'll give it a go tonight.
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ryan_daugherty
6 years ago
I use mastic tape the exact same way on my chainstays. It's makes the bike dead silent. Just go through your cassette and see where the chain would impact on each ring then put the tape there.
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thomas.gehrig
6 years ago
Why such a short offset fork? do you guys really notice a slower steering with the longer offset? Glad to see am not the only one that finds those "ride or die" stickers cheesy.
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