That's a fairly pessimistic view. Ten riders per elite team. Transfers between WC and elite teams allowed at any time. And fast riders can enter on...
That's a fairly pessimistic view. Ten riders per elite team. Transfers between WC and elite teams allowed at any time. And fast riders can enter on their own back via federation or points etc... at least that what I'm reading over in Singletrack
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated...
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated with a team of that size.
Transfers may be allowed, but will be costly for teams, especially if the rider concerned is still under contract (and aren't we talking about riders breaking into the top tier, rather than ones already there?).
Only so many spots for federations and depending where you're from there'll likely be a lot of riders challenging for a few places. IMO this system is also flawed, no disrespect to the guy, but look at the Taiwanese rider at Worlds. Won the Asian Champs, ranked around 54th in the world due to geography, but unable to qualify.
Isn't Taiwan's terrain anything but a limiting factor when it comes to the possibilities of riding bikes?
Looking at it from the other side, Martin Maes? Matti Lehikoinen?
That's a fairly pessimistic view. Ten riders per elite team. Transfers between WC and elite teams allowed at any time. And fast riders can enter on...
That's a fairly pessimistic view. Ten riders per elite team. Transfers between WC and elite teams allowed at any time. And fast riders can enter on their own back via federation or points etc... at least that what I'm reading over in Singletrack
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated...
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated with a team of that size.
Transfers may be allowed, but will be costly for teams, especially if the rider concerned is still under contract (and aren't we talking about riders breaking into the top tier, rather than ones already there?).
Only so many spots for federations and depending where you're from there'll likely be a lot of riders challenging for a few places. IMO this system is also flawed, no disrespect to the guy, but look at the Taiwanese rider at Worlds. Won the Asian Champs, ranked around 54th in the world due to geography, but unable to qualify.
Isn't Taiwan's terrain anything but a limiting factor when it comes to the possibilities of riding bikes?Looking at it from the other side, Martin Maes? Matti...
Isn't Taiwan's terrain anything but a limiting factor when it comes to the possibilities of riding bikes?
Looking at it from the other side, Martin Maes? Matti Lehikoinen?
Maybe, but the Taiwanese guy told Wyn he'd never ridden anything like the track in Andorra, in the end he was 34 seconds off the pace. Bottom line is there's no way you can tell me competition is as strong in Asia as it is in Europe, Australasia or North America.
3 dh races on 3 consecutive weekends , a week off and then 4 races in 5 weeks. That's going pretty brutal and pretty much season over if you pick up an injury early on.
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated...
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated with a team of that size.
Transfers may be allowed, but will be costly for teams, especially if the rider concerned is still under contract (and aren't we talking about riders breaking into the top tier, rather than ones already there?).
Only so many spots for federations and depending where you're from there'll likely be a lot of riders challenging for a few places. IMO this system is also flawed, no disrespect to the guy, but look at the Taiwanese rider at Worlds. Won the Asian Champs, ranked around 54th in the world due to geography, but unable to qualify.
Isn't Taiwan's terrain anything but a limiting factor when it comes to the possibilities of riding bikes?Looking at it from the other side, Martin Maes? Matti...
Isn't Taiwan's terrain anything but a limiting factor when it comes to the possibilities of riding bikes?
Looking at it from the other side, Martin Maes? Matti Lehikoinen?
Maybe, but the Taiwanese guy told Wyn he'd never ridden anything like the track in Andorra, in the end he was 34 seconds off the pace...
Maybe, but the Taiwanese guy told Wyn he'd never ridden anything like the track in Andorra, in the end he was 34 seconds off the pace. Bottom line is there's no way you can tell me competition is as strong in Asia as it is in Europe, Australasia or North America.
After thinking about it, I’m surprised that the World Cup (either XC or DH) don’t have a stop in Taiwan since that’s where the bike industry is based. Similar to the moto industry making sure that the SX and MX series start in SoCal.
After thinking about it, I’m surprised that the World Cup (either XC or DH) don’t have a stop in Taiwan since that’s where the bike industry...
After thinking about it, I’m surprised that the World Cup (either XC or DH) don’t have a stop in Taiwan since that’s where the bike industry is based. Similar to the moto industry making sure that the SX and MX series start in SoCal.
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB...
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe
UCI Mountain Bike World Championships – XCO, XCR XCC, XCM, E-MTB, DHI, and EDR, 2-14.09.2025, Valais, Switzerland.
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame.
Also listening to Moving the Needle podcast with Brendan Fairclough he was talking about having helped dig a new DH world cup track. Any ideas as to which of the many Europe locations that'll be?
After thinking about it, I’m surprised that the World Cup (either XC or DH) don’t have a stop in Taiwan since that’s where the bike industry...
After thinking about it, I’m surprised that the World Cup (either XC or DH) don’t have a stop in Taiwan since that’s where the bike industry is based. Similar to the moto industry making sure that the SX and MX series start in SoCal.
No, but KTM North America is headquartered in SoCal and that’s who funds and operates the AMA race teams (Red Bull KTM and Rockstar Husky), not KTM’s corporate headquarters in Austria. It’s the same for all the manufacturers in that the North American business unit is providing the funding and operating the AMA teams. Honda Corporate for example funds the Japanese series team and not the Lawrences.
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB...
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe
UCI Mountain Bike World Championships – XCO, XCR XCC, XCM, E-MTB, DHI, and EDR, 2-14.09.2025, Valais, Switzerland.
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame. Also listening to Moving the...
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame.
Also listening to Moving the Needle podcast with Brendan Fairclough he was talking about having helped dig a new DH world cup track. Any ideas as to which of the many Europe locations that'll be?
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar, WBD or the teams?
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated...
10 riders per elite team is pie in the sky, even the wealthiest teams would struggle to pay salaries, travel costs and increased background staff associated with a team of that size.
Transfers may be allowed, but will be costly for teams, especially if the rider concerned is still under contract (and aren't we talking about riders breaking into the top tier, rather than ones already there?).
Only so many spots for federations and depending where you're from there'll likely be a lot of riders challenging for a few places. IMO this system is also flawed, no disrespect to the guy, but look at the Taiwanese rider at Worlds. Won the Asian Champs, ranked around 54th in the world due to geography, but unable to qualify.
Some teams like Commençal Muc-Off and Scott already have 6-7 riders. And one or two more and you ain't far off ten..which is a limit not a goal.
By transfers I meant between lower ranked teams and the affiliated elite team. Kinda like Specialized gen-s and Spec Gravity for example.
And yes I agree the current qualification system to get to world cups is a flawed as this proposed system . So some change is surely welcome?
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar...
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar, WBD or the teams?
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB...
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe
UCI Mountain Bike World Championships – XCO, XCR XCC, XCM, E-MTB, DHI, and EDR, 2-14.09.2025, Valais, Switzerland.
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame. Also listening to Moving the...
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame.
Also listening to Moving the Needle podcast with Brendan Fairclough he was talking about having helped dig a new DH world cup track. Any ideas as to which of the many Europe locations that'll be?
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar...
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar, WBD or the teams?
My guess is, its both, teams and organizers (WBD/UCI etc.). All of the major teams have their stock of parts, bikes and such in Europe. If I remember correctly from last year, wasn't even specialized running low on some parts when they had Snowshoe and MSA world cups? Tells something if an American brand is running low on home soil.
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside EuropeUCI MTB...
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe
UCI Mountain Bike World Championships – XCO, XCR XCC, XCM, E-MTB, DHI, and EDR, 2-14.09.2025, Valais, Switzerland.
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame. Also listening to Moving the...
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame.
Also listening to Moving the Needle podcast with Brendan Fairclough he was talking about having helped dig a new DH world cup track. Any ideas as to which of the many Europe locations that'll be?
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar...
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar, WBD or the teams?
Probably the venues. As we're seeing, climate change is affecting snow seasons in European ski resorts, so they'll be allocating more tourism marketing dollars to MTB. They have the need, the infrastructure and the budget to bid.
The bigger question IMO is why aren't more locations round the world bidding to host world cups?
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame. Also listening to Moving the...
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame.
Also listening to Moving the Needle podcast with Brendan Fairclough he was talking about having helped dig a new DH world cup track. Any ideas as to which of the many Europe locations that'll be?
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar...
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar, WBD or the teams?
Probably the venues. As we're seeing, climate change is affecting snow seasons in European ski resorts, so they'll be allocating more tourism marketing dollars to MTB...
Probably the venues. As we're seeing, climate change is affecting snow seasons in European ski resorts, so they'll be allocating more tourism marketing dollars to MTB. They have the need, the infrastructure and the budget to bid.
The bigger question IMO is why aren't more locations round the world bidding to host world cups?
It's expensive to bid, it's expensive to run and the coverage/returns are just not worth it. You used to have to run 2 lower level events before you could be considered for a Wc.
Saying that a flawed system should be replaced by another flawed system because change would be welcome is a strange argument.
You're like my ex.. putting words were they never came from. Change is welcome..current system is sloppy and not coherent.. proposed system is a welcome change as it has potential to be something interesting and coherent in the future. Better the devil you know is no way for sports to operate at the most elite level. Gotta try things out and see how they work IMHO. Easy to return to previous systems of world cup qualifying and organisation if need be
Strange disparities in the rumoured calendars that are being posted. One says 10 rounds (a number alluded to in the Misspent Summers post, interestingly they also prefixed it with the word recalculated) all in Europe, one says 14 rounds, seemingly 2 outside of Europe.
The 14 round calendar was posted in June and the 10 round calendar this week.
Teams need to know what's happening, in planning/ budget financing for next year. The calendar should be released by World champs time. And in XC, a new Olympic cycle starts, and transfers happen.
All this uncertainty, is no way to run a sport.
Having no North American rounds seems poor, (and hopefully in-correct) especially when there are US owned manufacturers involved.
Teams need to know what's happening, in planning/ budget financing for next year. The calendar should be released by World champs time. And in XC, a...
Teams need to know what's happening, in planning/ budget financing for next year. The calendar should be released by World champs time. And in XC, a new Olympic cycle starts, and transfers happen.
All this uncertainty, is no way to run a sport.
Having no North American rounds seems poor, (and hopefully in-correct) especially when there are US owned manufacturers involved.
Top 15 teams already know, wildcard teams will be informed of events 6 weeks in advance as that's plenty of time for them to get everything in place if they're invited to attend. 🤣
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame. Also listening to Moving the...
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame.
Also listening to Moving the Needle podcast with Brendan Fairclough he was talking about having helped dig a new DH world cup track. Any ideas as to which of the many Europe locations that'll be?
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar...
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar, WBD or the teams?
My guess is, its both, teams and organizers (WBD/UCI etc.). All of the major teams have their stock of parts, bikes and such in Europe. If...
My guess is, its both, teams and organizers (WBD/UCI etc.). All of the major teams have their stock of parts, bikes and such in Europe. If I remember correctly from last year, wasn't even specialized running low on some parts when they had Snowshoe and MSA world cups? Tells something if an American brand is running low on home soil.
American brand with a "factory" team that is run by professional team managers through sponsorship money, where said team running everything is Europe based.
If I were a betting man and had no ethics about inside information, I'd be putting my money on that Enduro/DH double header 17th/18th May being Loudenvielle.
Which double header at the end of May do you refer to? It seems that on 31.05-01.06.2025 there's only EDR. The next week, in the first weekend of June there's a triple header. And two weeks before, on 17-18.05 there's a double header indeed. My guess for this one was Bielsko-Biala, being on similar dates to last year. But I can also see Loudenvielle here as well.
If we're making bets, here's mine (at least for the European locations). It's based on previous years location and dates. I added La Thuile/Aosta at the end of August because of all of the rumours. There's one venue left that I can't figure out though:
DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe FORT WILLIAM EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe FINALE LIGURE DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe BIELSKO-BIALA XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe NOVE MESTO EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe PETZEN/JAMNICA XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe LEOGANG XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI SOLE XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe LES GETS EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI FASSA DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe ??? DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe LOUDENVIELLE XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe LENZERHEIDE XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe PAL ARINSAL EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe COMBLOUX/MEGEVE XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe LA THUILE
If we're making bets, here's mine (at least for the European locations). It's based on previous years location and dates. I added La Thuile/Aosta at the...
If we're making bets, here's mine (at least for the European locations). It's based on previous years location and dates. I added La Thuile/Aosta at the end of August because of all of the rumours. There's one venue left that I can't figure out though:
DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe FORT WILLIAM EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe FINALE LIGURE DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe BIELSKO-BIALA XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe NOVE MESTO EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe PETZEN/JAMNICA XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe LEOGANG XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI SOLE XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe LES GETS EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI FASSA DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe ??? DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe LOUDENVIELLE XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe LENZERHEIDE XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe PAL ARINSAL EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe COMBLOUX/MEGEVE XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe LA THUILE
Can’t see lenzerheide coming back, although i thought it fit in with the ESO and their plans, also i think the big quadruple header is les gets, past two years its been like that. I’ve also seen two non-Europe races on certain sites in October.
If we're making bets, here's mine (at least for the European locations). It's based on previous years location and dates. I added La Thuile/Aosta at the...
If we're making bets, here's mine (at least for the European locations). It's based on previous years location and dates. I added La Thuile/Aosta at the end of August because of all of the rumours. There's one venue left that I can't figure out though:
DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe FORT WILLIAM EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe FINALE LIGURE DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe BIELSKO-BIALA XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe NOVE MESTO EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe PETZEN/JAMNICA XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe LEOGANG XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI SOLE XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe LES GETS EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI FASSA DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe ??? DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe LOUDENVIELLE XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe LENZERHEIDE XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe PAL ARINSAL EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe COMBLOUX/MEGEVE XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe LA THUILE
Can’t see lenzerheide coming back, although i thought it fit in with the ESO and their plans, also i think the big quadruple header is les...
Can’t see lenzerheide coming back, although i thought it fit in with the ESO and their plans, also i think the big quadruple header is les gets, past two years its been like that. I’ve also seen two non-Europe races on certain sites in October.
World Champs happening in Switzerland anyway, it would be logistically smart to add Lenzerheide just before or after Champs.
oh dear, this sounds like a real shitshow. How are they so troubled fixing their stuff in time? These days, when the industry is struggling, they add more adversities🙈 Also, why just european venues?
Isn't Taiwan's terrain anything but a limiting factor when it comes to the possibilities of riding bikes?
Looking at it from the other side, Martin Maes? Matti Lehikoinen?
Maybe, but the Taiwanese guy told Wyn he'd never ridden anything like the track in Andorra, in the end he was 34 seconds off the pace. Bottom line is there's no way you can tell me competition is as strong in Asia as it is in Europe, Australasia or North America.
Provisional 2025 UCI MTB World Cup schedule:
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 04-06.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO 11-13.04.2025 – Outside Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe
UCI MTB World Cup – XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe
UCI Mountain Bike World Championships – XCO, XCR XCC, XCM, E-MTB, DHI, and EDR, 2-14.09.2025, Valais, Switzerland.
So two in XC Brazil and then Europe. Not even a fake Europe destination in Canada anymore?
3 dh races on 3 consecutive weekends , a week off and then 4 races in 5 weeks. That's going pretty brutal and pretty much season over if you pick up an injury early on.
After thinking about it, I’m surprised that the World Cup (either XC or DH) don’t have a stop in Taiwan since that’s where the bike industry is based. Similar to the moto industry making sure that the SX and MX series start in SoCal.
KTM's are made in So Cal?
If this is true looks like the numerous 'Whistler to host a DH world cup' rumours are still not true - shame.
Also listening to Moving the Needle podcast with Brendan Fairclough he was talking about having helped dig a new DH world cup track. Any ideas as to which of the many Europe locations that'll be?
No, but KTM North America is headquartered in SoCal and that’s who funds and operates the AMA race teams (Red Bull KTM and Rockstar Husky), not KTM’s corporate headquarters in Austria. It’s the same for all the manufacturers in that the North American business unit is providing the funding and operating the AMA teams. Honda Corporate for example funds the Japanese series team and not the Lawrences.
Whistler rumours, Lake Placid rumours, Queenstown rumours all appear to be false if that provisional schedule is accurate. I wonder who's driving the Euro centric calendar, WBD or the teams?
Some teams like Commençal Muc-Off and Scott already have 6-7 riders. And one or two more and you ain't far off ten..which is a limit not a goal.
By transfers I meant between lower ranked teams and the affiliated elite team. Kinda like Specialized gen-s and Spec Gravity for example.
And yes I agree the current qualification system to get to world cups is a flawed as this proposed system . So some change is surely welcome?
https://en.brujulabike.com/uci-mtb-2025-calendar-revealed/
Seems that copied preliminary schedule is missing the two potential October dates?
My guess is, its both, teams and organizers (WBD/UCI etc.). All of the major teams have their stock of parts, bikes and such in Europe. If I remember correctly from last year, wasn't even specialized running low on some parts when they had Snowshoe and MSA world cups? Tells something if an American brand is running low on home soil.
Saying that a flawed system should be replaced by another flawed system because change would be welcome is a strange argument.
Probably the venues. As we're seeing, climate change is affecting snow seasons in European ski resorts, so they'll be allocating more tourism marketing dollars to MTB. They have the need, the infrastructure and the budget to bid.
The bigger question IMO is why aren't more locations round the world bidding to host world cups?
It's expensive to bid, it's expensive to run and the coverage/returns are just not worth it.
You used to have to run 2 lower level events before you could be considered for a Wc.
You're like my ex.. putting words were they never came from. Change is welcome..current system is sloppy and not coherent.. proposed system is a welcome change as it has potential to be something interesting and coherent in the future. Better the devil you know is no way for sports to operate at the most elite level. Gotta try things out and see how they work IMHO. Easy to return to previous systems of world cup qualifying and organisation if need be
Strange disparities in the rumoured calendars that are being posted. One says 10 rounds (a number alluded to in the Misspent Summers post, interestingly they also prefixed it with the word recalculated) all in Europe, one says 14 rounds, seemingly 2 outside of Europe.
The 14 round calendar was posted in June and the 10 round calendar this week.
https://en.brujulabike.com/uci-mtb-2025-calendar-revealed/
https://www.wideopenmountainbike.com/2024/09/could-this-be-the-uci-2025-world-cup-schedule
Hopefully it's clearer for the teams.
Wide-open's last paragraph says it all:
As a pre-calendar, this is all likely subject to change and has perhaps changed already
Never a truer word said
Teams need to know what's happening, in planning/ budget financing for next year. The calendar should be released by World champs time. And in XC, a new Olympic cycle starts, and transfers happen.
All this uncertainty, is no way to run a sport.
Having no North American rounds seems poor, (and hopefully in-correct) especially when there are US owned manufacturers involved.
Top 15 teams already know, wildcard teams will be informed of events 6 weeks in advance as that's plenty of time for them to get everything in place if they're invited to attend. 🤣
American brand with a "factory" team that is run by professional team managers through sponsorship money, where said team running everything is Europe based.
Even as elite teams, we don't have the calendar either !
If I were a betting man and had no ethics about inside information, I'd be putting my money on that Enduro/DH double header 17th/18th May being Loudenvielle.
Edited for clarity, sorry for any confusion.
You heard it here.
Which double header at the end of May do you refer to? It seems that on 31.05-01.06.2025 there's only EDR. The next week, in the first weekend of June there's a triple header. And two weeks before, on 17-18.05 there's a double header indeed. My guess for this one was Bielsko-Biala, being on similar dates to last year. But I can also see Loudenvielle here as well.
If we're making bets, here's mine (at least for the European locations). It's based on previous years location and dates. I added La Thuile/Aosta at the end of August because of all of the rumours. There's one venue left that I can't figure out though:
DHI 03-04.05.2025 – Europe FORT WILLIAM
EDR 10-11.05.2025 – Europe FINALE LIGURE
DHI/EDR 17-18.05.2025 – Europe BIELSKO-BIALA
XCO/XCM 23-25.05.2025 – Europe NOVE MESTO
EDR 31.05-01.06.2025 – Europe PETZEN/JAMNICA
XCO/DHI/EDR 06-08.06.2025 – Europe LEOGANG
XCO/DHI 13-15.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI SOLE
XCO/DHI 20-22.06.2025 – Europe LES GETS
EDR 28-29.06.2025 – Europe VAL DI FASSA
DHI/EDR 05-06.07.2025 – Europe ???
DHI/EDR 19-20.07.2025 – Europe LOUDENVIELLE
XCO/DHI 25-27.07.2025 – Europe LENZERHEIDE
XCO/DHI 01-03.08.2025 – Europe PAL ARINSAL
EDR/XCM 16-17.08.2025 – Europe COMBLOUX/MEGEVE
XCO/DHI/EDR/XCM 22-24.08.2025 – Europe LA THUILE
Can’t see lenzerheide coming back, although i thought it fit in with the ESO and their plans, also i think the big quadruple header is les gets, past two years its been like that. I’ve also seen two non-Europe races on certain sites in October.
World Champs happening in Switzerland anyway, it would be logistically smart to add Lenzerheide just before or after Champs.
finally the World championships after all the world cup!
oh dear, this sounds like a real shitshow. How are they so troubled fixing their stuff in time? These days, when the industry is struggling, they add more adversities🙈
Also, why just european venues?
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