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5/5/2024 6:21am

Tried going to the UCI webpage to see if they were doing updates like is done for enduro, not even that site is working. 

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5/5/2024 12:37pm

Carlson’s stoke is undeniable and I like him a lot. But I am thrown off by his no mustache Abe Lincoln beard. 
 

 

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5/5/2024 2:38pm

(checks my score) "nice I'm above average! decent start"

(checks what the best possible score combo would be) "oh... oh i might be playing this all wrong. hmmm well sh!t"

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5/5/2024 3:33pm Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 3:55pm

I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis: 

Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers did when the Syndicate brought them to the 2017 opener in Lourdes. Spoiler next: today in semis went Troy, Finn, Loic, Luca, 1-4; all of them on the same half second (😳), and all of them had computers in the fork and shock. Everyone else will be scrambling to get on the robot bouncers for round 2. 🏁

Today’s finals results are further proof, imho.

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5/5/2024 3:57pm

Did anyone notice the squirrel crossing the course in the right before the motorway in Juniors AND again in Luk Meier Smiths run? Right on the back wheel from screen right to left? 

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5/5/2024 4:00pm Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 4:00pm
I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis:  Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers...

I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis: 

Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers did when the Syndicate brought them to the 2017 opener in Lourdes. Spoiler next: today in semis went Troy, Finn, Loic, Luca, 1-4; all of them on the same half second (😳), and all of them had computers in the fork and shock. Everyone else will be scrambling to get on the robot bouncers for round 2. 🏁

Today’s finals results are further proof, imho.

I suggested 2 years ago that they could hook up a GPS watch to the suspension that knows location or elevation on the mountain & triggers settings when I saw that the green light on Brunis bar could be seen from down track. 
You wouldn’t face an indicator light on a bike down course unless it was for someone on track looking for it to monitor it the system was powered on

5/5/2024 4:54pm
I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis:  Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers...

I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis: 

Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers did when the Syndicate brought them to the 2017 opener in Lourdes. Spoiler next: today in semis went Troy, Finn, Loic, Luca, 1-4; all of them on the same half second (😳), and all of them had computers in the fork and shock. Everyone else will be scrambling to get on the robot bouncers for round 2. 🏁

Today’s finals results are further proof, imho.

I'm not yet convinced. The podium was Loic, Troy, Finn, Dakotah, and Luca. Every one of those riders has either won a WC or been on a podium multiple times, and they've done that without the aid of electronically controlled damping. I think it's a stretch to say the new tech is what separated them from the rest of the field. Did electronic damping controls provide a competitive advantage on this specific track? Maybe. It's certainly possible. But we don't know how much the riders were using it, or if they were all using it in the same way (Flight Attendant and Loic's Ohlins remote might function in different ways internally). And we don't know if the advantage it might afford on the Fort William track is transferable to other venues, or other race conditions. So consider me still skeptical. Curious, but skeptical.

tl;dr one race is not conclusive.

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5/5/2024 5:09pm
I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis:  Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers...

I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis: 

Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers did when the Syndicate brought them to the 2017 opener in Lourdes. Spoiler next: today in semis went Troy, Finn, Loic, Luca, 1-4; all of them on the same half second (😳), and all of them had computers in the fork and shock. Everyone else will be scrambling to get on the robot bouncers for round 2. 🏁

Today’s finals results are further proof, imho.

I'm not yet convinced. The podium was Loic, Troy, Finn, Dakotah, and Luca. Every one of those riders has either won a WC or been on...

I'm not yet convinced. The podium was Loic, Troy, Finn, Dakotah, and Luca. Every one of those riders has either won a WC or been on a podium multiple times, and they've done that without the aid of electronically controlled damping. I think it's a stretch to say the new tech is what separated them from the rest of the field. Did electronic damping controls provide a competitive advantage on this specific track? Maybe. It's certainly possible. But we don't know how much the riders were using it, or if they were all using it in the same way (Flight Attendant and Loic's Ohlins remote might function in different ways internally). And we don't know if the advantage it might afford on the Fort William track is transferable to other venues, or other race conditions. So consider me still skeptical. Curious, but skeptical.

tl;dr one race is not conclusive.

I agree 100% with all your points, but perhaps you missed mine: not that the robots provided an advantage, but that others will be rushing to get on board for the perceived advantage.

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5/5/2024 5:47pm

Steroids.
Dyneena.
Non-coordinated garish colors to reflect light.
Self programmed, elevation & location sensitive internals.
Roadie crotch meat competition podium.

Motorized wind turbines in helmets.
Carbon Dioxide filled tires
In helmet communications regarding humidity levels

Windsuits - 0
Baby Gap size jerseys - 4

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5/5/2024 5:48pm

Asa would’ve been 12th in elite today.  The top junior females had top 10 elite times.  The new gen is scary fast.

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5/5/2024 5:50pm

USA Junior question - Did it look like the Tomlinson kid was rolling into the gate AS the clock was counting down? 
Guessing he was late to the start trying to scramble for something he forgot...presumably goggles.

Whatever it was, glad to see him get a run in...goggles or not! 

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5/5/2024 5:52pm

Asa would’ve been 12th in elite today.  The top junior females had top 10 elite times.  The new gen is scary fast.

We need receipts for all the folks from other countries either doubting the dude or boosting their favorite "up and comer".
Asa could have worn a fishing slicker and took home hardware. 

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5/5/2024 7:08pm

Find me a single post that doubted Asa. Link me. Please.

And please don't bother with posts of people 'boosting their up and comer' lol as if there's something wrong with that. But the first part. Do tell.

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5/5/2024 7:39pm
bizutch wrote:
Did anyone notice the squirrel crossing the course in the right before the motorway in Juniors AND again in Luk Meier Smiths run? Right on the...

Did anyone notice the squirrel crossing the course in the right before the motorway in Juniors AND again in Luk Meier Smiths run? Right on the back wheel from screen right to left? 

Hahaha yes in juniors, and just fired up replay to just barely see him zipping out right before a right hand turn 

good to see people paying attention to the real stuff too. 
 

 

5/5/2024 9:13pm
I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis:  Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers...

I‘m going to copy/paste something I texted a homey yesterday after semis: 

Prediction: electronically controlled damping will shake up the game this year the same way 29ers did when the Syndicate brought them to the 2017 opener in Lourdes. Spoiler next: today in semis went Troy, Finn, Loic, Luca, 1-4; all of them on the same half second (😳), and all of them had computers in the fork and shock. Everyone else will be scrambling to get on the robot bouncers for round 2. 🏁

Today’s finals results are further proof, imho.

I'm not yet convinced. The podium was Loic, Troy, Finn, Dakotah, and Luca. Every one of those riders has either won a WC or been on...

I'm not yet convinced. The podium was Loic, Troy, Finn, Dakotah, and Luca. Every one of those riders has either won a WC or been on a podium multiple times, and they've done that without the aid of electronically controlled damping. I think it's a stretch to say the new tech is what separated them from the rest of the field. Did electronic damping controls provide a competitive advantage on this specific track? Maybe. It's certainly possible. But we don't know how much the riders were using it, or if they were all using it in the same way (Flight Attendant and Loic's Ohlins remote might function in different ways internally). And we don't know if the advantage it might afford on the Fort William track is transferable to other venues, or other race conditions. So consider me still skeptical. Curious, but skeptical.

tl;dr one race is not conclusive.

I agree 100% with all your points, but perhaps you missed mine: not that the robots provided an advantage, but that others will be rushing to...

I agree 100% with all your points, but perhaps you missed mine: not that the robots provided an advantage, but that others will be rushing to get on board for the perceived advantage.

Fair. It will be interesting to see what the Fox-sponsored teams do (or don't do).

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bizutch wrote:
Did anyone notice the squirrel crossing the course in the right before the motorway in Juniors AND again in Luk Meier Smiths run? Right on the...

Did anyone notice the squirrel crossing the course in the right before the motorway in Juniors AND again in Luk Meier Smiths run? Right on the back wheel from screen right to left? 

owl-x wrote:
Hahaha yes in juniors, and just fired up replay to just barely see him zipping out right before a right hand turn  good to see people...

Hahaha yes in juniors, and just fired up replay to just barely see him zipping out right before a right hand turn 

good to see people paying attention to the real stuff too. 
 

 

When I saw it squirt out behind the guy I thought it was someone's dog so I rewound it and was on high alert for the rest of the races to see if we might have an "incident".  Then in Meier Smith's run, boom...again. 
 

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5/6/2024 7:00am

Just pulled it back up. On Meier Smith, it was the drone.  
Behind the junior, squirrel. 
Hard hitting news. You're welcome folks.

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5/7/2024 5:59am

Interesting interview with Finn (among others) on the french speaking fullattack debrief show: Apparently as recently as 3 weeks ago he could not get the Ohlins electronic system to work for him and was considering moving back to his previous suspension setup!

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5/7/2024 6:35am

I thought the coverage on Max was pretty good (I'm located in the US). Definitely seeing more of the track too compared to redbull days. Gwin commentary is nice too, though Rob is still very dearly missed. Currently only paying the $10 per month for Max, not gonna be thrilled when I have to pay another 16 on top of that (the sports add on that is currently free), but right now it's not too bad; watching the NBA playoffs on Max too so that helps as well. Not commenting on any other controversial aspects of DH (semis and no US races and 6 EU rounds) - bottom line for me is paying $10 a month to watch some world cup dh racing with pretty good camera work and pro commentary not bad at all. 

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Fort Bill attendance for finals looked way down as compared to in the past.  Was I imagining that? 
WynTV interviews with riders afterwards had great insights.  
Captain No Goggles was b/c the marshalls at the gate called him into the start gate without warning.  He said they told him "10 seconds" and he just rolled straight through the gate. You could see him still rolling into the start house on the live stream.
BK said it best...Semi's sucked and there were a ton of riders not around for the big show on Sunday making it less exciting.
Get rid of Semi's.
Luca & Troy on a bike they'd only had since February.
Vali can squat 140...kilos? pounds? RedBulls?
Nina can't.
Benoit stuck in his biggest gear the whole race.
Finn busting Loic's balls for his moto disc covers
GM wrecked twice and his shoulder was lost pulling up on the bars causing the 2nd crash (saw his head go back on the live stream going down so that explains that odd motion)
Junior women's winner may be gangster.

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5/7/2024 10:34am Edited Date/Time 5/7/2024 10:44am
bizutch wrote:
Fort Bill attendance for finals looked way down as compared to in the past.  Was I imagining that?  WynTV interviews with riders afterwards had great insights.  ...

Fort Bill attendance for finals looked way down as compared to in the past.  Was I imagining that? 
WynTV interviews with riders afterwards had great insights.  
Captain No Goggles was b/c the marshalls at the gate called him into the start gate without warning.  He said they told him "10 seconds" and he just rolled straight through the gate. You could see him still rolling into the start house on the live stream.
BK said it best...Semi's sucked and there were a ton of riders not around for the big show on Sunday making it less exciting.
Get rid of Semi's.
Luca & Troy on a bike they'd only had since February.
Vali can squat 140...kilos? pounds? RedBulls?
Nina can't.
Benoit stuck in his biggest gear the whole race.
Finn busting Loic's balls for his moto disc covers
GM wrecked twice and his shoulder was lost pulling up on the bars causing the 2nd crash (saw his head go back on the live stream going down so that explains that odd motion)
Junior women's winner may be gangster.

I don't think you're imagining lower attendance, I thought the same. Wyn TV was interesting, I'm loving the longer format.

Another thing that I picked up on WynTV was ASA's only ride after recovering from his hip injury and before going to Fort Bill was at Glencoe, probably a more physical and brutal track than Fort Bill. Certainly not somewhere I'd choose as a "warm up" location (I get why they did, it's just up the road).

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5/7/2024 11:09am

I'll just assume I'm the smartest guy in the room and the 80+ riders, families, friends, teams, supporters and fans who got told you can't play Sunday....packed up & went home to watch the "live" stream of a measly 30 guys.  If anyone in the media world has contacts with the venue, would love to know if vendor sales/local economy took a hit compared to prior years. 

My criticisms...not a fan of Puffy Spice or the guy in booth not named Gwin.

And....they thought we were idiots again piping in "shreddy" sounds during the quiet bits of the track to make it sound like a rider was ripping mic-ed up.  Awful bit of production 


 

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5/7/2024 2:58pm Edited Date/Time 5/7/2024 2:59pm

According to Neko’s instagram: The Frameworks van got stolen from hotel parking lot and recovered. All frames and wheels (race bikes and Spesh e-bikes) stolen out of it and missing. Sucks so bad. 

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5/7/2024 3:12pm
hogfly wrote:
According to Neko’s instagram: The Frameworks van got stolen from hotel parking lot and recovered. All frames and wheels (race bikes and Spesh e-bikes) stolen out...

According to Neko’s instagram: The Frameworks van got stolen from hotel parking lot and recovered. All frames and wheels (race bikes and Spesh e-bikes) stolen out of it and missing. Sucks so bad. 

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5/7/2024 3:28pm

What the hell.  I don't understand how this happens so often 

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5/7/2024 3:31pm
hogfly wrote:
According to Neko’s instagram: The Frameworks van got stolen from hotel parking lot and recovered. All frames and wheels (race bikes and Spesh e-bikes) stolen out...

According to Neko’s instagram: The Frameworks van got stolen from hotel parking lot and recovered. All frames and wheels (race bikes and Spesh e-bikes) stolen out of it and missing. Sucks so bad. 

Oh man, what a shitty thing.  Wonder if they have anything sitting around at home.  When does practice start for Poland, thursday?  Gonna be so tight to try and scrape something together.  Wonder if another team is going to come through and loan some stuff. 

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hogfly wrote:
According to Neko’s instagram: The Frameworks van got stolen from hotel parking lot and recovered. All frames and wheels (race bikes and Spesh e-bikes) stolen out...

According to Neko’s instagram: The Frameworks van got stolen from hotel parking lot and recovered. All frames and wheels (race bikes and Spesh e-bikes) stolen out of it and missing. Sucks so bad. 

Oh man, what a shitty thing.  Wonder if they have anything sitting around at home.  When does practice start for Poland, thursday?  Gonna be so tight...

Oh man, what a shitty thing.  Wonder if they have anything sitting around at home.  When does practice start for Poland, thursday?  Gonna be so tight to try and scrape something together.  Wonder if another team is going to come through and loan some stuff. 

ENVE chimed in on the PB comments w/ this "Our wheelbuilders are building up fresh wheels for the team, which should ship out tomorrow. Spares are coming the team's way as well. Let's get the boys back to the races!"

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5/8/2024 12:38am

Sucks so much, maybe Asa could get on a Demo due to the spesh sponsorship? Just to preserve the title shot?

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5/8/2024 3:18am
Mugen wrote:
Interesting interview with Finn (among others) on the french speaking fullattack debrief show: Apparently as recently as 3 weeks ago he could not get the Ohlins...

Interesting interview with Finn (among others) on the french speaking fullattack debrief show: Apparently as recently as 3 weeks ago he could not get the Ohlins electronic system to work for him and was considering moving back to his previous suspension setup!

I love full attack videos, it seems that it feels like a family show to french riders and they always bring up interesting topics and answers. Also post FW show had great intro: Here is the winner, the man to beat, no need to introduce him... speaks for another minute. Loic finally gets to speak: "You didnt tell my name" Grinning

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