Wyn's Prototype Carbon GT DH Bike

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Edited Date/Time 2/11/2018 4:48pm
Wyn Masters is riding a prototype GT downhill bike at the Oceania MTB Champs in New Zealand. This is a radical departure for GT away from their I-drive suspension design. The prototype appears to use a four-bar design with a Horst link and idler pulley. We see also see oversized bearings throughout, including bearings in the upper shock mount for improved sensitivity. There may also be a geometry adjustment in the lower mount.

The frame itself is carbon up front with aluminum stays, and Wyn was sporting 27.5-inch wheels.

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2/9/2018 8:28pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2018 1:40pm
The current crop of downhill bikes with high pivots and idlers look pretty frekin rad!

I wonder if it has anything to do with the move away from tight technical tracks on the World Cup circuit? High speed, rearward axle path, bump gobbling monsters may be the name of the game for the next few years.








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2/10/2018 4:37am
Here are these to add to the conversation, that way I don't feel totally useless for just standing next to Wyn like that...



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2/10/2018 12:52pm
Thank christ they changed that bike. Didn't seem like it did much good for anyone.

Joining GT factory team might just be the worst thing one can do for their career.

Gee Atherton:

On GT in 2012, finished top 5 in world cup overall, then started sliding back every year starting in 2014


Dan Atherton:

On GT in 2012, worst year ever, then quit racing world cup DH


Marc Beaumont:

On GT for a long time, started to have uncommonly bad overall results in 2015 and then on from there.


Brook MacDonald:

2013-23rd Overall, 2014- 11th Overall, 2015- 10th Overall, 2016- starts GT- 19th Overall, 2017-(GT) 24th Overall


Sam Dale:

2013-27th Overall, 2014- 13th Overall, 2015-23rd Overall, 2016- starts GT- 95th Overall, 2017- (GT) 90th Overall


Wyn Masters:

2013-42nd Overall, 2014- 35th Overall, 2015- 30th Overall, 2016- starts GT- 85th Overall, 2017- (GT) 74th Overall


Taylor Vernon:

2015- GT Factory team start- 47th Overall, 2016 (GT)- 50th 2017- rides a different bike- 30th overall


All riders that go to Specialized factory win worlds or WC races (Hill, Gwin, Bruni, Miller, Illes) Many riders would go to Trek Factory have their best relative seasons (Gwin, Rachael, MacDonald). Every rider to get on Syndicate gets (or ties) their best results ever (Minnaar, Peat, Loris, Luca, Bryceland).

People who ride GT seem to have a different story.
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2/10/2018 1:25pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2018 1:35pm
Wow, is it a conspiracy? People like four bar, be it FSR or Lawill style. Check. Horst Link is the best of the FSRs. Check. High pivots make for rearward axle path. Check. Idler pulleys make high pivots work. Check. I don't know the angles but they can't be too far off the norm. At this point the bike should not be the issue. High hopes for Wyn on this new super bike. And can't wait to see Tyler's next Rampage bike.
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2/10/2018 1:32pm
Also. A carbon "Prototype" is a very expensive proposition. What if all these carbon prototype bikes are just aluminum mules that have been bondoed up to look like they're made out of carbon?
2/10/2018 4:09pm
TRex wrote:
Thank christ they changed that bike. Didn't seem like it did much good for anyone. Joining GT factory team might just be the worst thing one...
Thank christ they changed that bike. Didn't seem like it did much good for anyone.

Joining GT factory team might just be the worst thing one can do for their career.

Gee Atherton:

On GT in 2012, finished top 5 in world cup overall, then started sliding back every year starting in 2014


Dan Atherton:

On GT in 2012, worst year ever, then quit racing world cup DH


Marc Beaumont:

On GT for a long time, started to have uncommonly bad overall results in 2015 and then on from there.


Brook MacDonald:

2013-23rd Overall, 2014- 11th Overall, 2015- 10th Overall, 2016- starts GT- 19th Overall, 2017-(GT) 24th Overall


Sam Dale:

2013-27th Overall, 2014- 13th Overall, 2015-23rd Overall, 2016- starts GT- 95th Overall, 2017- (GT) 90th Overall


Wyn Masters:

2013-42nd Overall, 2014- 35th Overall, 2015- 30th Overall, 2016- starts GT- 85th Overall, 2017- (GT) 74th Overall


Taylor Vernon:

2015- GT Factory team start- 47th Overall, 2016 (GT)- 50th 2017- rides a different bike- 30th overall


All riders that go to Specialized factory win worlds or WC races (Hill, Gwin, Bruni, Miller, Illes) Many riders would go to Trek Factory have their best relative seasons (Gwin, Rachael, MacDonald). Every rider to get on Syndicate gets (or ties) their best results ever (Minnaar, Peat, Loris, Luca, Bryceland).

People who ride GT seem to have a different story.
I know Im going to get a lot of hate for this but. my god onother "joinig GT sucks" comment, as a GT fanboy, I have to say something, but lets see maybe its true, just a quick look at rootsandrain...

Gee Atherton:

On GT in 2012, finished top 5 in world cup overall, then won a worldcup and world champs, 2016-2017 on trek got a 7th place top maybe trek is cursed? not at all, its just a diferent bike, cant say is gee´s or trek fault, just a more competitive field. but lets keep browsing

Dan Atherton:On GT in 2012, worst year ever? lets see 2011 maybe he did better..... oh nvm

Marc Beaumont: On GT for a long time,true even won a world cup "started to have uncommonly bad overall results in 2015 and then on from there". wonder if getting older has something to do? plus racing on a bike tailor made for someone else...

Brook MacDonald: best results ever on a mondraker (glad to see he is back) then on trek 2013-23rd Overall, 2014- 11th Overall, 2015- 10th Overall,getting used to the bike then getting cut by the athertons, and again trying to get used to a bike made for someone else

not gonna list the rest of the guys, just see it for your self, again dont want so sound like am trashing the guys, they are the best at what they do I´ll pay top dollar to even get 1% of the tallent they have. but then again trashing a bike because of riders results not good ether, if so, why Troy brosnan hasnt won as many WC as Aaron on specialized? what happened with George Brannigan on Commencal? Brendan Fairclough on scott worse move ever?. also "All riders that go to Specialized factory win worlds or WC races" come on man its 2018 the "demo is the best dh bike ever" thing just got overruled by Aaron wining on KTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ0qpQ4YupY
2/11/2018 1:40am
Anyone else noticed a correlation between fast kiwis who have been exposed to (probably ridden) and raced against the Zerode DH bike with its high pivot and idler wheel configuration and the bikes that they have been involved in building afterwards.
George Brannigan - the new commencal and now gt
Brook's off Gt now but will have had things to say before he left.
Blenki - Norco.
Wyn - this GT...
2/11/2018 4:48pm
digbyshaw wrote:
Anyone else noticed a correlation between fast kiwis who have been exposed to (probably ridden) and raced against the Zerode DH bike with its high pivot...
Anyone else noticed a correlation between fast kiwis who have been exposed to (probably ridden) and raced against the Zerode DH bike with its high pivot and idler wheel configuration and the bikes that they have been involved in building afterwards.
George Brannigan - the new commencal and now gt
Brook's off Gt now but will have had things to say before he left.
Blenki - Norco.
Wyn - this GT...
Possible correlation. However, Wyn rode for Bulls bikes for several years and they have had a high pivot almost identical to the commencal for years. I'm not sure when the Zerode hit the race scene but I would think that wyn's and George's prior experiences on these style bikes would have more to do with the design than just riding and racing against others on the bikes.

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