Looking for enduro frame with short chainstays

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Edited Date/Time 9/19/2021 9:57pm
Currently on a 2019 Meta 29 in L, stock was 460 reach and with the angleset it’s closer to 455. I’m 183 and after hopping on an evil wreckoning and pivot firebird (previous gen) I found that the 470 reach suits me a bit better. Still prefer chainstays on the shorter end though.

So now I’m looking for a 170/160 or 170/170 travel frame, 64ish hta, 470-475 (480 max) reach, and 435ish chainstays, preferably alloy. The 2021 meta would fit but 495 reach is a tad long for me.

Thanks in advance.
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bermslapper69 8/28/2021 1:10pm
8/28/2021 1:10pm
29 wrote:
Currently on a 2019 Meta 29 in L, stock was 460 reach and with the angleset it’s closer to 455. I’m 183 and after hopping on...
Currently on a 2019 Meta 29 in L, stock was 460 reach and with the angleset it’s closer to 455. I’m 183 and after hopping on an evil wreckoning and pivot firebird (previous gen) I found that the 470 reach suits me a bit better. Still prefer chainstays on the shorter end though.

So now I’m looking for a 170/160 or 170/170 travel frame, 64ish hta, 470-475 (480 max) reach, and 435ish chainstays, preferably alloy. The 2021 meta would fit but 495 reach is a tad long for me.

Thanks in advance.
Canfield lithium maybe?
noideamtber 8/28/2021 3:30pm
8/28/2021 3:30pm Edited Date/Time 8/28/2021 3:34pm
29 wrote:
Currently on a 2019 Meta 29 in L, stock was 460 reach and with the angleset it’s closer to 455. I’m 183 and after hopping on...
Currently on a 2019 Meta 29 in L, stock was 460 reach and with the angleset it’s closer to 455. I’m 183 and after hopping on an evil wreckoning and pivot firebird (previous gen) I found that the 470 reach suits me a bit better. Still prefer chainstays on the shorter end though.

So now I’m looking for a 170/160 or 170/170 travel frame, 64ish hta, 470-475 (480 max) reach, and 435ish chainstays, preferably alloy. The 2021 meta would fit but 495 reach is a tad long for me.

Thanks in advance.
i went through this exact thing as realised many bikes are just getting too big even for thier discipline(EWS) which clearly the top guys are riding smaller bikes.
Rocky Altitude, nukeproof mega(440cs) otherwise youll have to do what i did and im bang on 183cm aswell, wanted a bike that could plow with a slack HTA, comfy climb pos, short enough to be agile an short CS for the real fun and had to go to a AM bike, like marin alpine, sight etc.
you can put a 170 fork on a sight.
the most surprising bike was the alpine cheap and good value, 63.5 hta but steep sta and comfy seated position combined with the 430cs, low leverage with coil was soooo good, i had several at the bike park ride it who normally ride expensive brands with name tax and converted them - they now ride alpine XR's.
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FqqTBawL 8/28/2021 8:58pm
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Find yourself a Specialized Status. Alloy only. 63.2 HA with 567 A2C, 426 Chainstays and 487 Reach in S4. Mullet of course
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brash 8/28/2021 11:18pm
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immediately the bike that came to mind was the 2019-2020 Meta

The previous gen pivot firebird has 475mm reach and 431mm chainstay in large.
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29 8/30/2021 12:02am
8/30/2021 12:02am Edited Date/Time 8/30/2021 12:03am
Marin Alpine looks great on paper, but I don’t like the colors at all. Norco Sight is great as well but this is going to be my bikepark/occasional enduro race bike and while I have no doubt 150mm rear would be enough, I need all the help I can get so a bit more travel would be preferred.

Status looks like a fun bike but I want to stay full 29er.

And I still absolutely love my Meta, but in steep and rough terrain I find myself hanging over the front wheel a bit too much and I don’t have the confidence to go full speed that way. Previous firebird would be my absolute dream bike, but very expensive (carbon) frame, would need new shock and rear wheel, so it’s unfortunately not really an option.

Still kinda tempted by the 2021 Meta, frame is 1600 bucks and I can use all my parts. But the enduro mag review is making me a bit hesitant haha

But thanks already to everyone Smile
noideamtber 8/30/2021 12:06am
8/30/2021 12:06am Edited Date/Time 8/30/2021 12:09am
Yes the Marin Colours arnt lookers, we repainted our two XR's we did consider the Carbon versions but nah.

For the sight just up the rear travel like the EWS riders did , brung it to around 160ish.(longer stroke shock)

i rode both sizes of the META 21 and wasnt a fan, ones too long and ones too compact, their Enduro bike is more of a freeride bike, they make a mint DH bike though

Remember Richie and alot of other ews riders run 150 rear.

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Eoin 8/30/2021 12:58am
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Latest Capra would suit well in either 29er (CS = 438mm) or MX (CS = 433mm). Looks like a really sorted geo, nothing too extreme but all very modern.

Good luck finding stock however...
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StudBeefpile 9/8/2021 3:10pm
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Kona's process X has 435 chainstays in the short setting. Unfortunately they are plastic and f'ing expensive.
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melonhead1145 9/9/2021 12:34am
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Why not buy the new Meta in a size down? Ignore the stated size and just go by reach measures
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Suns_PSD 9/14/2021 9:38am
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Pivot, Commencal, Status & Canfield still all make bikes with positively (shitty) short chainstays.

They are awful, but more power to ya.
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Edthorne 9/14/2021 1:31pm
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Suns_PSD wrote:
Pivot, Commencal, Status & Canfield still all make bikes with positively (shitty) short chainstays.

They are awful, but more power to ya.



Though I whole heartedly agree. Short chainstays with a long reach necessitate an uncomfortably front biased weight distribution to maintain traction on the front wheel. It get's really tiring on rougher tracks.
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Suns_PSD 9/15/2021 5:37pm
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It's not just tiring it also slows me down when I have to make quick direction changes, float over bumps while turning & so on.
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Verbl Kint 9/19/2021 9:57pm
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StudBeefpile wrote:
Kona's process X has 435 chainstays in the short setting. Unfortunately they are plastic and f'ing expensive.
The Process 153 comes in at the same 435mm chainstay length, and there are aluminum versions. The older 2019 version has an even shorter chainstay length at 425mm (both on the 27.5 and 29 inch versions).

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