Can see an '11' on the top tube... Wonder if it's just the long overdue alu version or if they've updated/tweaked it somehow [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/09/12142/s1200_Screenshot_20220309_003655_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Can see an '11' on the top tube... Wonder if it's just the long overdue alu version or if they've updated/tweaked it somehow
What's the Trek in the background? Link looks like a Slash, but the top tube/seat tube junction seems different from the current Slash and Remedy. I'm probably overthinking this, but there is a pretty decent hole in Trek's lineup between the 160mm Slash and 200mm Session; seems fit for a 'super enduro' or park model.
Can see an '11' on the top tube... Wonder if it's just the long overdue alu version or if they've updated/tweaked it somehow [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/09/12142/s1200_Screenshot_20220309_003655_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Can see an '11' on the top tube... Wonder if it's just the long overdue alu version or if they've updated/tweaked it somehow
What's the Trek in the background? Link looks like a Slash, but the top tube/seat tube junction seems different from the current Slash and Remedy. I'm...
What's the Trek in the background? Link looks like a Slash, but the top tube/seat tube junction seems different from the current Slash and Remedy. I'm probably overthinking this, but there is a pretty decent hole in Trek's lineup between the 160mm Slash and 200mm Session; seems fit for a 'super enduro' or park model.
I can't believe how close the shock looks to the DT! Looks like it's resting on it from a couple angles. The cut out on the DT is hard to see from some of the pics.
I can't believe how close the shock looks to the DT! Looks like it's resting on it from a couple angles. The cut out on the...
I can't believe how close the shock looks to the DT! Looks like it's resting on it from a couple angles. The cut out on the DT is hard to see from some of the pics.
There is a cavity designed into the downtube to prevent it from hitting. What’s really going to suck is turning those clickers that are next to that piggyback, hidden deep inside that cavity. I don’t think you can even reach them without taking it out.
With a few more frame and details pics from Jeff, here is an updated image of what the bike can look like.
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[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/06/12129/s1200_2022_Gwin_Proto_V2.jpg[/img]
With a few more frame and details pics from Jeff, here is an updated image of what the bike can look like.
seth sherlock's prototype intense from windrock today.
Looks quite similar to the Cannondale Jekyll layout. With the exception that the front half of the rocker is hidden and the frame surrounds more of the shock on the Jekyll.
Surprised no one has noticed some tweaks to the session the TFR team is on. The idler is now in plain sight, and no longer has the chain stay on both sides. Hopefully this will fix some of the chain drop issues!
Speaking of chains dropping, apparently under hard riding, the Jekyll is horrible in the chain retention department. Mitch dropped a chain at the Ironton BME resulting in a DNF. Wonder if anyone has thought to put a full lower guide on?
Surprised no one has noticed some tweaks to the session the TFR team is on. The idler is now in plain sight, and no longer has...
Surprised no one has noticed some tweaks to the session the TFR team is on. The idler is now in plain sight, and no longer has the chain stay on both sides. Hopefully this will fix some of the chain drop issues!
Speaking of chains dropping, apparently under hard riding, the Jekyll is horrible in the chain retention department. Mitch dropped a chain at the Ironton BME resulting in a DNF. Wonder if anyone has thought to put a full lower guide on?
Wonder if Jeff is going with non-ideal super high pivot so he can avoid patents? Where Neko is running the I-track pivot since he's not a retail company they let him borrow the design. Jeff has to play by different rules and probably doesn't want to license anything so he's stuck with a too-high high-pivot with a 8" long rocker haha.
Also, scary that this is still a 'work in progress' frame this far along. Jeff's instagram post said "this project making good progress". Not something you really want to be saying a couple weeks before the world cup season. That's something you post in November or December. haha.
Specialized Cannibal tire resurfaces on Loic Bruni's rig at the DH race in Portugal last weekend. (Photos on the other site). His result wasn't the greatest---wonder if he'll not have confidence in the new tire and go back to the DHRIIs for Lousa of if he'll stay committed to it.
Perhaps only tangentially related to tech and innovation but I thought this was fun. Turns out all of those QR codes are real and there's even a Rick Roll hidden in there.
that down tube weld would play on my mind.. I mean I would KNOW that it's safe but still........... :/ also the end product is gonna be fantastic plastic.
Wonder if Jeff is going with non-ideal super high pivot so he can avoid patents? Where Neko is running the I-track pivot since he's not a...
Wonder if Jeff is going with non-ideal super high pivot so he can avoid patents? Where Neko is running the I-track pivot since he's not a retail company they let him borrow the design. Jeff has to play by different rules and probably doesn't want to license anything so he's stuck with a too-high high-pivot with a 8" long rocker haha.
Also, scary that this is still a 'work in progress' frame this far along. Jeff's instagram post said "this project making good progress". Not something you really want to be saying a couple weeks before the world cup season. That's something you post in November or December. haha.
I-track does not deal with pivot height. The I-track patent covers having the idler on a suspension member that is not the front triangle or the swingarm in the case of a single pivot design. So it covers link mounted idlers on 4 and 6-bar suspension designs.
Having the idler concentric to one of the pivots on the front triangle if I recall correctly means it's 'frame mounted', as is the case with the Range.
What's the Trek in the background? Link looks like a Slash, but the top tube/seat tube junction seems different from the current Slash and Remedy. I'm...
What's the Trek in the background? Link looks like a Slash, but the top tube/seat tube junction seems different from the current Slash and Remedy. I'm probably overthinking this, but there is a pretty decent hole in Trek's lineup between the 160mm Slash and 200mm Session; seems fit for a 'super enduro' or park model.
Nice catch on the TFR new idler setup!
Also, concerning the intense, the main pivot is quite high but that is not the only factor determining the axle path, given it is an horst frame. Also, how much mud can collect in that downtube😬?
Wonder if Jeff is going with non-ideal super high pivot so he can avoid patents? Where Neko is running the I-track pivot since he's not a...
Wonder if Jeff is going with non-ideal super high pivot so he can avoid patents? Where Neko is running the I-track pivot since he's not a retail company they let him borrow the design. Jeff has to play by different rules and probably doesn't want to license anything so he's stuck with a too-high high-pivot with a 8" long rocker haha.
Also, scary that this is still a 'work in progress' frame this far along. Jeff's instagram post said "this project making good progress". Not something you really want to be saying a couple weeks before the world cup season. That's something you post in November or December. haha.
I-track does not deal with pivot height. The I-track patent covers having the idler on a suspension member that is not the front triangle or the...
I-track does not deal with pivot height. The I-track patent covers having the idler on a suspension member that is not the front triangle or the swingarm in the case of a single pivot design. So it covers link mounted idlers on 4 and 6-bar suspension designs.
Having the idler concentric to one of the pivots on the front triangle if I recall correctly means it's 'frame mounted', as is the case with the Range.
It looks like the idler on the Intense is attached to the swing arm so it would be I Track?
Speaking of chains dropping, apparently under hard riding, the Jekyll is horrible in the chain retention department. Mitch dropped a chain at the Ironton BME resulting in a DNF. Wonder if anyone has thought to put a full lower guide on?
Also, scary that this is still a 'work in progress' frame this far along. Jeff's instagram post said "this project making good progress". Not something you really want to be saying a couple weeks before the world cup season. That's something you post in November or December. haha.
Having the idler concentric to one of the pivots on the front triangle if I recall correctly means it's 'frame mounted', as is the case with the Range.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXWS-U5JESj/
Also, concerning the intense, the main pivot is quite high but that is not the only factor determining the axle path, given it is an horst frame. Also, how much mud can collect in that downtube😬?
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