The last thing I want is some computer trying to change my suspension feel mid-descent. Predictability > some settings that some engineer in Japan dreams up.
The only sort of integration I wouldn't mind having would be something that disengages climb mode on my shock when I drop the dropper post... for those rare times I actually turn it on for a long climb, then of course forget to turn it off when I start heading down.
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10786/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143512_Instagram.jpg[/img]
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10785/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143537_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother.
Just screen shotted the same one to post. Love how he slow-mo'd the video right on the entire side view
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10786/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143512_Instagram.jpg[/img]
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10785/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143537_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother.
The last thing I want is some computer trying to change my suspension feel mid-descent. Predictability > some settings that some engineer in Japan dreams up...
The last thing I want is some computer trying to change my suspension feel mid-descent. Predictability > some settings that some engineer in Japan dreams up.
The only sort of integration I wouldn't mind having would be something that disengages climb mode on my shock when I drop the dropper post... for those rare times I actually turn it on for a long climb, then of course forget to turn it off when I start heading down.
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10786/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143512_Instagram.jpg[/img]
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10785/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143537_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother.
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10786/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143512_Instagram.jpg[/img]
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/10785/s1200_Screenshot_20210510_143537_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Some really good photos of the yet to be release GT on Wyn's story. Definitely looks like the Fury's little brother.
Neither will short but curved/interrupted seat tube. On my G16 I have very "old school" 470mm seat tube on size L. I have 200mm dropper with 40mm of seat post to the bottom of collar still available. And no, I´m not exactly a giant at 187cm. All that shorter seat tube would bring me is more room for dropper flex/bind.
Fox gravel fork from Geoff Kabush's insta:
https://www.instagram.com/p/COvRTJbN50v/
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/11/10787/s1200_183771771_195640965721818_6980939396803565902_n.jpg[/img]
Seriously though with flat bars that bike would pass as an xc bike no problem. Which isn’t a bad thing. But you can save yourself a whole lot of money by buying an old mtb than these new crop of gravel
Bikes.
Fox gravel fork from Geoff Kabush's insta:
https://www.instagram.com/p/COvRTJbN50v/
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/11/10787/s1200_183771771_195640965721818_6980939396803565902_n.jpg[/img]
Fox gravel fork from Geoff Kabush's insta:
https://www.instagram.com/p/COvRTJbN50v/
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/11/10787/s1200_183771771_195640965721818_6980939396803565902_n.jpg[/img]
Looks like it’s got less travel than those tyres. I think gravel bikes are cool but that is a sad little stump of a suspension fork. Can it really be worth the additional cost/weight?
Someone (can't remember who) pointed out that the reverse arch design patent that Manitou/Answer/Hayes owns is expiring this fall. I thought it was on this article, but it's not. They believe this fork will have to wait until then to be released. That does raise the question, is anyone else going to try the reverse arch? I realize at this point it's also a visual differentiation between brands but if it is advantageous weight-wise I would think someone may try to switch to it.
Fox gravel fork from Geoff Kabush's insta:
https://www.instagram.com/p/COvRTJbN50v/
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/11/10787/s1200_183771771_195640965721818_6980939396803565902_n.jpg[/img]
The lowers remind me of my old RS Mag 21. 90's mtb vibes for sure!
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/13/10789/s1200_mag21_vs_fox.jpg[/img]
The lowers remind me of my old RS Mag 21. 90's mtb vibes for sure!
Gravel bikes will have 2.5 tires, 5+ inches of suspension and sub 65° head angles by 2040.
Someone (can't remember who) pointed out that the reverse arch design patent that Manitou/Answer/Hayes owns is expiring this fall. I thought it was on this article...
Someone (can't remember who) pointed out that the reverse arch design patent that Manitou/Answer/Hayes owns is expiring this fall. I thought it was on this article, but it's not. They believe this fork will have to wait until then to be released. That does raise the question, is anyone else going to try the reverse arch? I realize at this point it's also a visual differentiation between brands but if it is advantageous weight-wise I would think someone may try to switch to it.
The Zeb was marketed as having a really offset (forwards) arch in order to clear the headtube. As in it can go past the bottom of it. With a reverse arch you have even less space in that regard as you can make the arch only lower to clear the frame. Plus frames slope downwards behind the headtube.
Then there's the fender mounting problem.
As for stiffness, as long as the position of the arch relative to the stanchions is the same, it won't have a massive impact. If you offset it more, it will make the fork a bit stiffer and all and Manitou forks did appear to have a bit more of an offset. Though that could also be caused by the fact the arch was thinner compared to other manufacturer's products.
Then there's the question of manufacturing, with a standard arch you can hide the ugly parts of the mould (webbing to gain strength without weight, ejector pins, etc.) behind the arch, facing the stanchion. With the manitou design you will either face it forwards towards the stanchions and make it visible from the front, or have it in the back, as usual, but also make it a bit more visible, as the stanchions won't hide it. The lowers stanchion hole and the root of the arch might also be a complicated area for the tooling (depending on the shape) and cause some not-so-pretty tool lines and the likes, which is again something that would be a lot more visible with a rearwards arch design. The front arch really covers up a lot of the nitty gritty stuff and leaves the surfaces very nice and smooth. And most buyers buy products with their eyes, not by the numbers and facts
What will it be this time. A Kevin spade miniseries? A Morgan freeman audiobook? A commission from banksy? Perhaps Fabio will model with it?
Hopefully it’s...
What will it be this time. A Kevin spade miniseries? A Morgan freeman audiobook? A commission from banksy? Perhaps Fabio will model with it?
Hopefully it’s dark Norton boosting some huge gaps. But I’m prepared to be disappointed.
It looks like it has some special forces or something in it
Some new spy shots from the new version of the Commencal Supreme DH bike. The bike seems to work when looking at the qualifying results of the Commencal riders at a local race in Portugal.
The only sort of integration I wouldn't mind having would be something that disengages climb mode on my shock when I drop the dropper post... for those rare times I actually turn it on for a long climb, then of course forget to turn it off when I start heading down.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COvRTJbN50v/
Seriously though with flat bars that bike would pass as an xc bike no problem. Which isn’t a bad thing. But you can save yourself a whole lot of money by buying an old mtb than these new crop of gravel
Bikes.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COxc_2nl1ch/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/E-Bikes,111/Specialized/Kenevo-S…
Then there's the fender mounting problem.
As for stiffness, as long as the position of the arch relative to the stanchions is the same, it won't have a massive impact. If you offset it more, it will make the fork a bit stiffer and all and Manitou forks did appear to have a bit more of an offset. Though that could also be caused by the fact the arch was thinner compared to other manufacturer's products.
Then there's the question of manufacturing, with a standard arch you can hide the ugly parts of the mould (webbing to gain strength without weight, ejector pins, etc.) behind the arch, facing the stanchion. With the manitou design you will either face it forwards towards the stanchions and make it visible from the front, or have it in the back, as usual, but also make it a bit more visible, as the stanchions won't hide it. The lowers stanchion hole and the root of the arch might also be a complicated area for the tooling (depending on the shape) and cause some not-so-pretty tool lines and the likes, which is again something that would be a lot more visible with a rearwards arch design. The front arch really covers up a lot of the nitty gritty stuff and leaves the surfaces very nice and smooth. And most buyers buy products with their eyes, not by the numbers and facts
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Hopefully it’s dark Norton boosting some huge gaps. But I’m prepared to be disappointed.
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