surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd. We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol. I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao
You are right..It’s not a great design at all. no idea why they would partner up with a brand that does saddle and conceal it under the seat better or stored in the saddle.. that area is always a dirt and grime hot spot, why not just fully enclose the rails at the same time.
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd. We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol. I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao
Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper.
I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb.
Huge part of the appeal of these new 170-180mm park bikes is a water bottle. (and a dropper post)
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....
And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not...
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....
And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.
Oh I've never found bike park runs to be something I couldn't live without water until the bottom of. You don't have to drink every 15 minutes. I am guilty of taking a camo bag cooler down first run and stashing in an area where the beer is available half way down. 😁
That said trail bikes should absolutely should have bottle bosses 100%. 170mm bikes are trail bikes even if they are burly ones. Not sure why people push the 170-180mm stuff as uplift only. They are not dh bikes, will never be, and are not intended to be.
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not...
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....
And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.
Oh I've never found bike park runs to be something I couldn't live without water until the bottom of. You don't have to drink every 15...
Oh I've never found bike park runs to be something I couldn't live without water until the bottom of. You don't have to drink every 15 minutes. I am guilty of taking a camo bag cooler down first run and stashing in an area where the beer is available half way down. 😁
That said trail bikes should absolutely should have bottle bosses 100%. 170mm bikes are trail bikes even if they are burly ones. Not sure why people push the 170-180mm stuff as uplift only. They are not dh bikes, will never be, and are not intended to be.
Now that so many companies are making things that aren't bottles with mounts for bottle bosses, i.e. tools, tubes, pumps, bags, etc, all bikes, including ,DH bikes should have bosses somewhere, even if there isn't actually room for a full water bottle. Lots of bikes have a second set on the underside of the top tube these days even though usually you can't put a bottle there (bonus for XL frames when sometimes you can).
Anybody whose broken something in the top third of the Garbo zone without spares knows the pain...
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd. We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol. I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao
Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper.
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.
I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.
^This. There is nowhere else to put it. Functionally mid-post makes the most sense (probably why Fox and RS landed there) and internally is the best aesthetically.
Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper.
Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper.
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.
I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper.
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
Totally looks like a rubber cover for a charge port. They could have machined a channel in the lower tube to run wires down to the...
Totally looks like a rubber cover for a charge port. They could have machined a channel in the lower tube to run wires down to the actuator.
That's my thought too, wondering what that means for the upgrade add-on you mentioned above? I haven't heard about that but if it's a thing then maybe there are 2 versions; add-on w/ a bottom charging port and new one w/ collar port?
Doubt it would be 2 versions. It would probably be a new lower tube assembly that supports all the electronics. They already sell the lower tube as a spare part for 45€
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd. We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol. I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao
Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper.
I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb.
For me I think this is a great idea. It is just a 4mm to get the seatpost out, connect to a usbc or something you have anyway... And it would make sure the post never sticks or get gunky.
I am waiting for the bikeyoke one because I have 3 bikes that I use that uses a dropper, and I share them with my wife who is shorter than me. Getting one post with a favorite seat each. Even if it was just me I would rather have one and move it around than 3.
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
I'm wondering why we still need to externally charge batteries for something that need this little energy to work.
We are sitting on systems that are constantly creating energy -vibrating, braking, pedaling, pumping. Why can't we gather a fraction of this energy to rationnaly charge the electronic components?
I can remember kinetics systems to recharge watches, and that was at least 20 years ago...
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
I'm not sure there's enough room for a USB-C port...
I'm not sure there's enough room for a USB-C port...
To me that looks like a magnetic charge point where the 2 larger circles are magnets and the charge pins go into the two small holes. There’s a similar port on one of my power meters.
To me that looks like a magnetic charge point where the 2 larger circles are magnets and the charge pins go into the two small holes...
To me that looks like a magnetic charge point where the 2 larger circles are magnets and the charge pins go into the two small holes. There’s a similar port on one of my power meters.
Magnetic charger makes sense to me, found this 2023 article on NSMB where they teased the dropper. It originally had a USB-C port at the bottom which required removing the post to charge it, I'd imagine they were looking to find a better charging solution.
To me that looks like a magnetic charge point where the 2 larger circles are magnets and the charge pins go into the two small holes...
To me that looks like a magnetic charge point where the 2 larger circles are magnets and the charge pins go into the two small holes. There’s a similar port on one of my power meters.
Magnetic charger makes sense to me, found this 2023 article on NSMB where they teased the dropper. It originally had a USB-C port at the bottom...
Magnetic charger makes sense to me, found this 2023 article on NSMB where they teased the dropper. It originally had a USB-C port at the bottom which required removing the post to charge it, I'd imagine they were looking to find a better charging solution.
who‘s that, curtis keene?
They tried to justify that: "because 170mm bikes are made for shuttling and lift-assisted rides". DUDE
Huge part of the appeal of these new 170-180mm park bikes is a water bottle. (and a dropper post)
You are right..It’s not a great design at all. no idea why they would partner up with a brand that does saddle and conceal it under the seat better or stored in the saddle.. that area is always a dirt and grime hot spot, why not just fully enclose the rails at the same time.
Based on the styling it makes me want to buy the current one, unless there's some functionality/price/reliability benefit?
I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb.
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....
And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.
Oh I've never found bike park runs to be something I couldn't live without water until the bottom of. You don't have to drink every 15 minutes. I am guilty of taking a camo bag cooler down first run and stashing in an area where the beer is available half way down. 😁
That said trail bikes should absolutely should have bottle bosses 100%. 170mm bikes are trail bikes even if they are burly ones. Not sure why people push the 170-180mm stuff as uplift only. They are not dh bikes, will never be, and are not intended to be.
Now that so many companies are making things that aren't bottles with mounts for bottle bosses, i.e. tools, tubes, pumps, bags, etc, all bikes, including ,DH bikes should have bosses somewhere, even if there isn't actually room for a full water bottle. Lots of bikes have a second set on the underside of the top tube these days even though usually you can't put a bottle there (bonus for XL frames when sometimes you can).
Anybody whose broken something in the top third of the Garbo zone without spares knows the pain...
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.
I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.
^This. There is nowhere else to put it. Functionally mid-post makes the most sense (probably why Fox and RS landed there) and internally is the best aesthetically.
A nearby body cavity, with a wireless energy transfer?
Externally routed to a battery pack that mounts to the bottle cage bosses. That way you can have the joy of routing wires like a traditional dropper.
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉
Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?
Weed storage.
Weed storage for ANTS...
A Life Alert button? Might be handy now that I'm getting old.
Totally looks like a rubber cover for a charge port. They could have machined a channel in the lower tube to run wires down to the actuator.
That's my thought too, wondering what that means for the upgrade add-on you mentioned above? I haven't heard about that but if it's a thing then maybe there are 2 versions; add-on w/ a bottom charging port and new one w/ collar port?
Doubt it would be 2 versions. It would probably be a new lower tube assembly that supports all the electronics. They already sell the lower tube as a spare part for 45€
For me I think this is a great idea. It is just a 4mm to get the seatpost out, connect to a usbc or something you have anyway... And it would make sure the post never sticks or get gunky.
I am waiting for the bikeyoke one because I have 3 bikes that I use that uses a dropper, and I share them with my wife who is shorter than me. Getting one post with a favorite seat each. Even if it was just me I would rather have one and move it around than 3.
My first guess would be a button for the valve "reset", replacing the hex key.
If not... would those two little holes be a charging port ? (but it's a "meh" guess as it's a bit weird not to use usb-c for that)
Edit: I read the previous answers after writing this -dumb me did not think of a simple rubber cap (*slaps face)
I'm wondering why we still need to externally charge batteries for something that need this little energy to work.
We are sitting on systems that are constantly creating energy -vibrating, braking, pedaling, pumping. Why can't we gather a fraction of this energy to rationnaly charge the electronic components?
I can remember kinetics systems to recharge watches, and that was at least 20 years ago...
If it is chargeable without having to remove the seatpost, I don't care where the battery goes.
I'm not sure there's enough room for a USB-C port...
To me that looks like a magnetic charge point where the 2 larger circles are magnets and the charge pins go into the two small holes. There’s a similar port on one of my power meters.
Magnetic charger makes sense to me, found this 2023 article on NSMB where they teased the dropper. It originally had a USB-C port at the bottom which required removing the post to charge it, I'd imagine they were looking to find a better charging solution.
mfw i have to charge my seatpost
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