I would prefer the bosch as it doesn't rattle and the weight would probably be very closed with non removable batteries. But it has to be...
I would prefer the bosch as it doesn't rattle and the weight would probably be very closed with non removable batteries. But it has to be the whole bike. I don't know why people are so fixated on motors and th power. I'm more interested in how the bike handles on trails. Any motor will get me up there.
Thank you!
The obsession with the fastest motor really has gotten out of hand.
PS. That said, Forbidden has announced an E-Druid and an E-Dreadnaught utilizing the Avinox motor.
I would prefer the bosch as it doesn't rattle and the weight would probably be very closed with non removable batteries. But it has to be...
I would prefer the bosch as it doesn't rattle and the weight would probably be very closed with non removable batteries. But it has to be the whole bike. I don't know why people are so fixated on motors and th power. I'm more interested in how the bike handles on trails. Any motor will get me up there.
Thank you! The obsession with the fastest motor really has gotten out of hand. PS. That said, Forbidden has announced an E-Druid and an E-Dreadnaught utilizing the Avinox...
Thank you!
The obsession with the fastest motor really has gotten out of hand.
PS. That said, Forbidden has announced an E-Druid and an E-Dreadnaught utilizing the Avinox motor.
More speed and power!
Looks to be DJI. Competition for the current market can only be good for us consumers.
For the most part I think the current crop of ebikes are pretty close to the right mix of weight, power and performance. A solid frame will always be important. This is where I think future manufacturers who miss the mark and will try to cover up with more power. There's also reliability, a variable that seems mostly skipped over in this new market.
What's really interesting about Forbidden is that their frames get nothing but praise. Drop in a current generation Shimano and it would be amazing. They also sell their current models as frame only. I hope this continues with their new ebikes, and others follow. I do not need a bigger parts bin for all of these take-offs from full builds.
I would prefer the bosch as it doesn't rattle and the weight would probably be very closed with non removable batteries. But it has to be...
I would prefer the bosch as it doesn't rattle and the weight would probably be very closed with non removable batteries. But it has to be the whole bike. I don't know why people are so fixated on motors and th power. I'm more interested in how the bike handles on trails. Any motor will get me up there.
That's very true, the ride of the bike overall is really the key thing, and it would be a mistake to get crappy bike just because it has a top notch motor on it.
Having said that, I am very much looking forward to when we have "Full Power" bikes at "SL" bike weight, and the DJI motor/battery (and also the new Bosch CX and their lighter batteries) are both big steps forward in achieving that. I recently was able to get in some riding swapping back and forth between a full power Shimano bike, and a Bosch SX bike. Even though the SX is one of the more powerful light weight models, the difference in torque was noticeable. The extra torque of the Shimano was very welcome on technical climbing where a lower cadence is required to avoid pedal strikes and for balance. It was also nice on flat but twisty terrain where the Shimano could help boost you from corner to corner, turning what would have been a pretty boring section of trail on a 50lb bike into almost a DH sort of experience. Granted, for people who are doing more "winch and plummet" type riding, with the climbs mostly done on fire roads, and the descents mostly gravity powered on singletrack, the extra torque wouldn't really matter.
Just FYI, apparently DJI has also cured their motor rattle (as Bosch did on their newest gen CX) between when the initial DJI protos were shown and when the production Amflow bikes started being sent out. That is pretty damn impressive that they came up with a solution to the rattle complaints of early testers in a few months, when it took Bosch several years, and Shimano still hasn't fixed it.
OK hookem34, the PB article just dropped on the Forbidden/DJI bike. Clearly you know more than you were letting on. I know there's probably a carefully planned trickle marketing campaign planned but, fess up, what are the deets? I want travel and weight figures at minimum!😉
P.S. That seems like a real coup for Forbidden to be the first 3d party to use the DJI motor, so props to them! I wonder is it is a "DJI being selective and wanting to keep a premium/boutique image of their product" sort of thing, or is it a "small companies like Forbidden are more nimble and can shift to a new direction faster than the big guys" sort of thing?
...or larger companies cant be risky enough to invest into partnership with a company from mainland China that might be banned from the US market (entirely or in parts)
... or larger companies have business contracts with the current manufacturers that span years and have amendments for future deals
... or larger companies don't want to jump the ship too fast to have an unproven yet tech for their flagships
I'm not in any way against DJI, but those kinds of questions are likely to be answered positively by smaller companies
OK hookem34, the PB article just dropped on the Forbidden/DJI bike. Clearly you know more than you were letting on. I know there's probably a carefully...
OK hookem34, the PB article just dropped on the Forbidden/DJI bike. Clearly you know more than you were letting on. I know there's probably a carefully planned trickle marketing campaign planned but, fess up, what are the deets? I want travel and weight figures at minimum!😉
P.S. That seems like a real coup for Forbidden to be the first 3d party to use the DJI motor, so props to them! I wonder is it is a "DJI being selective and wanting to keep a premium/boutique image of their product" sort of thing, or is it a "small companies like Forbidden are more nimble and can shift to a new direction faster than the big guys" sort of thing?
Thank you!
The obsession with the fastest motor really has gotten out of hand.
PS. That said, Forbidden has announced an E-Druid and an E-Dreadnaught utilizing the Avinox motor.
More speed and power!
Looks to be DJI. Competition for the current market can only be good for us consumers.
For the most part I think the current crop of ebikes are pretty close to the right mix of weight, power and performance. A solid frame will always be important. This is where I think future manufacturers who miss the mark and will try to cover up with more power. There's also reliability, a variable that seems mostly skipped over in this new market.
What's really interesting about Forbidden is that their frames get nothing but praise. Drop in a current generation Shimano and it would be amazing. They also sell their current models as frame only. I hope this continues with their new ebikes, and others follow. I do not need a bigger parts bin for all of these take-offs from full builds.
I love it when my sources deliver 😀
That's very true, the ride of the bike overall is really the key thing, and it would be a mistake to get crappy bike just because it has a top notch motor on it.
Having said that, I am very much looking forward to when we have "Full Power" bikes at "SL" bike weight, and the DJI motor/battery (and also the new Bosch CX and their lighter batteries) are both big steps forward in achieving that. I recently was able to get in some riding swapping back and forth between a full power Shimano bike, and a Bosch SX bike. Even though the SX is one of the more powerful light weight models, the difference in torque was noticeable. The extra torque of the Shimano was very welcome on technical climbing where a lower cadence is required to avoid pedal strikes and for balance. It was also nice on flat but twisty terrain where the Shimano could help boost you from corner to corner, turning what would have been a pretty boring section of trail on a 50lb bike into almost a DH sort of experience. Granted, for people who are doing more "winch and plummet" type riding, with the climbs mostly done on fire roads, and the descents mostly gravity powered on singletrack, the extra torque wouldn't really matter.
Just FYI, apparently DJI has also cured their motor rattle (as Bosch did on their newest gen CX) between when the initial DJI protos were shown and when the production Amflow bikes started being sent out. That is pretty damn impressive that they came up with a solution to the rattle complaints of early testers in a few months, when it took Bosch several years, and Shimano still hasn't fixed it.
OK hookem34, the PB article just dropped on the Forbidden/DJI bike. Clearly you know more than you were letting on. I know there's probably a carefully planned trickle marketing campaign planned but, fess up, what are the deets? I want travel and weight figures at minimum!😉
P.S. That seems like a real coup for Forbidden to be the first 3d party to use the DJI motor, so props to them! I wonder is it is a "DJI being selective and wanting to keep a premium/boutique image of their product" sort of thing, or is it a "small companies like Forbidden are more nimble and can shift to a new direction faster than the big guys" sort of thing?
...or larger companies cant be risky enough to invest into partnership with a company from mainland China that might be banned from the US market (entirely or in parts)
... or larger companies have business contracts with the current manufacturers that span years and have amendments for future deals
... or larger companies don't want to jump the ship too fast to have an unproven yet tech for their flagships
I'm not in any way against DJI, but those kinds of questions are likely to be answered positively by smaller companies
Believe what you want from an unknown source
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