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4/26/2024 3:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/26/2024 3:12pm
New session in the works. Screen grabs from team video. Looks like some kind of stiffness around seat tube/BB area. Maybe frame enclosure around shock for...

New session in the works. Screen grabs from team video.

Looks like some kind of stiffness around seat tube/BB area. Maybe frame enclosure around shock for lateral stiffness? Chainstay, seatstay look the same.

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kcyeeto wrote:

sick pirellis

Ernst_ wrote:

"cough" ...sharpied out continentals :D

DHRII as well, I'm really curious to see what Pirelli comes out with in the future. Minion/Krypotal fusion? Maybe just some hot patches instead?

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TEAMROBOT wrote:

No, absolutely not. Reading is not a strong suit for most people.

I like my forum comments like I like my riding style. Fast, loose, awkward and over confident in my abilities.

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4/27/2024 7:31am

Random tire question. Are the white patch Maxxis tires any different (compound, weight, etc...) from the yellow patch tires or is the white patch just a way for Maxxis to track the OEM tires?

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4/27/2024 7:55am
RaggedEdge wrote:
Random tire question. Are the white patch Maxxis tires any different (compound, weight, etc...) from the yellow patch tires or is the white patch just a...

Random tire question. Are the white patch Maxxis tires any different (compound, weight, etc...) from the yellow patch tires or is the white patch just a way for Maxxis to track the OEM tires?

There's a thread (and an easy Google search) for that, but here ya go:

"Confirmed by the head of Maxxis North America, the white logo Maxxis tires and normal yellow logo Maxxis tires are made to the same standard, are the same tire and the only difference is the hot patch color. "

https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/blogs/worldwide-cyclery-blog/maxxis-ti…

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4/27/2024 8:06am
RaggedEdge wrote:
Random tire question. Are the white patch Maxxis tires any different (compound, weight, etc...) from the yellow patch tires or is the white patch just a...

Random tire question. Are the white patch Maxxis tires any different (compound, weight, etc...) from the yellow patch tires or is the white patch just a way for Maxxis to track the OEM tires?

https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only

 

Fairly certain the answer is no, however not all compounds are available in "white patch". But please do not hesitate to pursue it further in the correct thread instead of rumours thread

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4/27/2024 8:26am
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only   Fairly certain the answer is no, however not all compounds are available in "white patch". But please do not hesitate to pursue it further...

https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only

 

Fairly certain the answer is no, however not all compounds are available in "white patch". But please do not hesitate to pursue it further in the correct thread instead of rumours thread

When I was ordering Maxxis as a PM at Canfield a few years back, the tires offered in white patch are for OEM only. They do not offer all of the options in white patch. But a white patch and yellow patch of the same tire specs (size/duro/TPI...) were the same. Yellow patch had more options and more of the premium options. 

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4/27/2024 11:02am
Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless  

Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless Woohoo 

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4/27/2024 11:09am
Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless  

Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless Woohoo 

Why have you hidden the fact that that’s a dakotah post?

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4/27/2024 12:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/27/2024 12:50pm
Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless  

Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless Woohoo 

TimBud wrote:

Why have you hidden the fact that that’s a dakotah post?

Pretty sure those bars make it absolutely clear who's post it is, but here's the link if there's any remaining doubt:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/daknorton/3355595831867180463/

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4/27/2024 12:53pm
Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless  

Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless Woohoo 

TimBud wrote:

Why have you hidden the fact that that’s a dakotah post?

dolface wrote:

Pretty sure those bars make it absolutely clear who's post it is, but here's the link if there's any remaining doubt:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/daknorton/3355595831867180463/

Not sure I'm buying this setup... his mechanic could have been messing with him.

But seeing Dak race those bars would be almost as good as the shorts bounty.

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4/27/2024 1:19pm
TimBud wrote:

Why have you hidden the fact that that’s a dakotah post?

dolface wrote:

Pretty sure those bars make it absolutely clear who's post it is, but here's the link if there's any remaining doubt:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/daknorton/3355595831867180463/

chriskief wrote:
Not sure I'm buying this setup... his mechanic could have been messing with him. But seeing Dak race those bars would be almost as good as...

Not sure I'm buying this setup... his mechanic could have been messing with him.

But seeing Dak race those bars would be almost as good as the shorts bounty.

Seems about right, got rid of spacers and went to high rise bars. 

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4/27/2024 3:01pm

Dak’s starting a biker gang with those ape hangers!? 

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4/27/2024 3:38pm Edited Date/Time 4/27/2024 3:42pm

 

Ridin' these world cups
All alone
God takes your stack
You're on your own
The Mondraker flies straight
A perfect line
Raise your bar height
Until you die

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4/27/2024 6:53pm
UfuS78 wrote:
  Vivid coil? 

 

Vivid coil? 

Good eye! And a steering damper, but I think that's been discussed here already. The shock looks really similar to a Super Deluxe, so I'll have to defer to other tech nerds to confirm whether that's a new reservoir or just the old one with a new sticker, sans lockout lever.

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4/27/2024 8:16pm
UfuS78 wrote:
  Vivid coil? 

 

Vivid coil? 

TEAMROBOT wrote:
Good eye! And a steering damper, but I think that's been discussed here already. The shock looks really similar to a Super Deluxe, so I'll have...

Good eye! And a steering damper, but I think that's been discussed here already. The shock looks really similar to a Super Deluxe, so I'll have to defer to other tech nerds to confirm whether that's a new reservoir or just the old one with a new sticker, sans lockout lever.

My guess is the existing super deluxe shock body with a vivid piggyback bolted up. Would be a cool retrofittable feature for existing shocks if that's the only difference. 

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4/27/2024 11:22pm

Is there any difference between the Vivid and Super deluxe piggybacks? I was under the impression the vivid is just an architecturally same shock as the coil super deluxe (with adjustable hbo) but in air form. As the two super deluxes do have differences in architecture. Can it just be a marketing related renaming? Regarding lockout, there has always been a super deluxe ultimate DH without the lock. 

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4/27/2024 11:23pm
Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless  

Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless Woohoo 

This is the bar I need. Any ideas what the rise is on it? 

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4/27/2024 11:43pm
Primoz wrote:

This is the bar I need. Any ideas what the rise is on it? 

Come on Primoz, you are pretty handy with calculations, we know he is likely running 31.8diameter bar, it's not that hard to make accurate guess about bar rise based on that 😋my estimate is 10-12cm 

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4/28/2024 1:16am Edited Date/Time 4/28/2024 1:20am
Primoz wrote:

This is the bar I need. Any ideas what the rise is on it? 

Jakub_G wrote:
Come on Primoz, you are pretty handy with calculations, we know he is likely running 31.8diameter bar, it's not that hard to make accurate guess about...

Come on Primoz, you are pretty handy with calculations, we know he is likely running 31.8diameter bar, it's not that hard to make accurate guess about bar rise based on that 😋my estimate is 10-12cm 

I'd say more in the region of 80-90mm. Ladies and gentlemen place your bets.

Out of interest, would the best way of gambling on handlebar geometry be a sweepstake?

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4/28/2024 1:24am

I vote 75. I'm more interested in the backsweep and upsweep to be honest. 

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veefour wrote:
I'd say more in the region of 80-90mm. Ladies and gentlemen place your bets. Out of interest, would the best way of gambling on handlebar geometry...

I'd say more in the region of 80-90mm. Ladies and gentlemen place your bets.

Out of interest, would the best way of gambling on handlebar geometry be a sweepstake?

We could have a sweep sweepstake.

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4/28/2024 5:04am
UfuS78 wrote:
  Vivid coil? 

 

Vivid coil? 

TEAMROBOT wrote:
Good eye! And a steering damper, but I think that's been discussed here already. The shock looks really similar to a Super Deluxe, so I'll have...

Good eye! And a steering damper, but I think that's been discussed here already. The shock looks really similar to a Super Deluxe, so I'll have to defer to other tech nerds to confirm whether that's a new reservoir or just the old one with a new sticker, sans lockout lever.

My guess is the existing super deluxe shock body with a vivid piggyback bolted up. Would be a cool retrofittable feature for existing shocks if that's...

My guess is the existing super deluxe shock body with a vivid piggyback bolted up. Would be a cool retrofittable feature for existing shocks if that's the only difference. 

I think maybe Rock Shox will release a Vivid Coil to replace the Super Deluxe DH 🤔

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4/28/2024 7:17am Edited Date/Time 4/28/2024 7:18am
Primoz wrote:
Is there any difference between the Vivid and Super deluxe piggybacks? I was under the impression the vivid is just an architecturally same shock as the...

Is there any difference between the Vivid and Super deluxe piggybacks? I was under the impression the vivid is just an architecturally same shock as the coil super deluxe (with adjustable hbo) but in air form. As the two super deluxes do have differences in architecture. Can it just be a marketing related renaming? Regarding lockout, there has always been a super deluxe ultimate DH without the lock. 

At least from the release discussion, the main feature difference between a Vivid coil and a SD coil would be the initial travel damping bypass "touchdown" IIRC the naming correctly. The piggyback may be the same externally but the internals are likely different to include that feature. 

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4/28/2024 7:33am

Wouldn't that be a piston feature? 

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4/28/2024 8:06am
Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless  

Not really a tech rumour, but quite interesting nonetheless Woohoo 

Primoz wrote:

This is the bar I need. Any ideas what the rise is on it? 

Probably a 70-80mm riser bar. Ive get 35mm diameter 50mm risers from deity on my bike. I like riding with a bit of stack as well. 

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